Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

[Jaw]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.71ef4bcecede

lo****ingl

Why, that isn't possible, her campaign has denied it vehemently!

[Julio3000]

I think it's quite embarrassing for the attorney involved to have apparently denied involvement.

But it was reported at the time the dossier became public that Democrat-linked entities, then unknown, had picked up the oppo project after the as-yet unknown Republican campaign dropped it. And, that the FBI found it credible and alarming enough to offer to pay Steele to keep working, until his name became public.

So, do carry on LOL'ing about that denial while being apparently unperturbed about the fact that the Trump campaign lied for months about having no contact with Russians.

[57Brave]

Were there any laws broken ?

Was the Clinton Campaign involved in illegality ?

like accepting meetings with Russians offering aid during Presidential campaign
or lying to Congress under oath
or obstructing an ongoing investigation
or falsifying Security Clearance documents
money laundering

looked for those instances -- must have missed that

or fraud in connection with a for pay college scheme ---- my bad, that doesn't have anything to do with Russia

[Hawk]

Embarrassing? That's not an intentionally benign characterization at all.

[Julio3000]

Embarrassing? That's not an intentionally benign characterization at all.

It certainly leads to a "why." Which may have some kind of distressing answer...which is not at all clear at this point.

But, while we're on the subject of oppo reasearch. Two campaigns:

1) A law firm working for the DNC contracted with a research firm to perform opposition research.

2) The Flynns pere et fils reportedly ran an operation outside the campaign that contacted Russian hackers to try to obtain HRC's deleted State Dept emails.

3) The CEO of Cambridge Analytica, contracted to the Trump campaign (and part-owned by Steve Bannon and the Mercer family) contacted Wilileaks (characterized by Trump's CIA director as a "hostile intelligence service") in order to try to obtain same.

4) Trump's son, son-in-law, and campaign manager met with an, er, well-connected Russian lawyer and a lobbyist who's twice been accused of orchestrating corporate hacking, upon the promise of receiving oppo research material.

5) Roger Stone, Guccifer 2.0, Podesta, etc.

Now, the first example, whatever we DON'T know about it, at least reflects a comprehensible business relationship, and doesn't seem particularly remarkable in the context of these things. If further scrutiny is required, investigators will have access to billing records, etc., that can show what services were paid for, and what services were rendered.

On the flipside--and in the context of one campaign having had internal documents stolen and released online--there's potentially a "quid," but no obvious "quo."

But your hair is now on fire about item 1, after having dismissed all of the others.

[Hawk]

It's pretty amusing to see you preach caution and urge for clarity to avail itself (all the while downplaying the magnitude of potential wrongdoing). Seems like a familiar tact.

For the record, not one of 1-5 severely concerns me. My hair is fine (and just barely receding).

[thethe]

Muellers integrity sure is impeccable

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbi...ing-1508883468

[Hawk]

Mueller should recuse himself.

[thethe]

Mueller should recuse himself.

The whole investigation is a diversion from uranium one.

[Julio3000]

It's pretty amusing to see you preach caution and urge for clarity to avail itself (all the while downplaying the magnitude of potential wrongdoing). Seems like a familiar tact.

For the record, not one of 1-5 severely concerns me. My hair is fine (and just barely receding).

I will look to you to as my touchstone as an honest arbiter for the urging of restraint and the seeking of clarity.

[Julio3000]

The Trump campaign has issued a statement distancing themselves from Cambridge Analytica.

They paid them $5.9M between July and December of 2016.

[57Brave]

piggy backing on last post



PROUD RESISTER ��‏ @ProudResister 23h23 hours ago

Russia ➡️ WikiLeaks ➡️ Trump

1. According to the CIA, the Russian Govt gave Clinton emails to WikiLeaks.

2. Cambridge Analytica requested Clinton emails from WikiLeaks.

3. Trump Campaign hired Cambridge Analytica and paid them $5.9 million.

[goldfly]

Mueller should recuse himself.

lol

[57Brave]

things about to get real:

Washington (CNN) - A federal grand jury in Washington, DC, on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politi...CNNPolitics=Tw

[jpx7]

Mueller should rescue himself.

If only it were that easy.

[goldfly]

So, first charges filed

Weird for a fake investigation

[sturg33]

any day we're gonna get the impeachment. this is big!

[57Brave]

unless Mueller team indicts Trump, even if (D) wins mid terms in 2018 I doubt there will be impeachment. If it is so bad Ryan is backed into an impeachment corner Trump will resign (declare bankruptcy) and should (D) win Pelosi won't impeach.

In 1996 with grounds, her first move as Speaker was to take impeachment off of the table.
She'd rather have a wounded/compromised POTUS to deal with than an energized Pence. Who ideologically makes Trump look like Howard Zinn

Plus (D) has a legislative agenda that impeachment would suck all of the air out of the room.
.............................

If the evidence on Trump is compelling enough it warrants indictment - my guess today is he retires to Sinclair Broadcasting.
I doubt there would be a 25th Amendment solution

[nsacpi]

I think it's quite embarrassing for the attorney involved to have apparently denied involvement.

But it was reported at the time the dossier became public that Democrat-linked entities, then unknown, had picked up the oppo project after the as-yet unknown Republican campaign dropped it. And, that the FBI found it credible and alarming enough to offer to pay Steele to keep working, until his name became public.

From an old article published a year ago (October 31, 2016):

In June, the former Western intelligence officer—who spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clients—was assigned the task of researching Trump’s dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm. This was for an opposition research project originally financed by a Republican client critical of the celebrity mogul. (Before the former spy was retained, the project’s financing switched to a client allied with Democrats.)

[bravesnumberone]

I love it. The right talks about what a waste of time it is. Then when there are charges, it's FAKE. Except if it's Clinton or Obama