Very muted reaction from the White House so far. Ominous.
Very muted reaction from the White House so far. Ominous.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
One vote? How about multiple votes against establishing a federal holiday in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr. The newsletters certainly had a lot to say about the subject.Originally Posted by sturg33
I get it, when you’re a mark, it’s hard to admit that you’re a mark.
Listening to the lawyers because **** just got real?
Still wondering, though... just as he has escaped your steel trap of a logical mind for delegating the writing of his newsletters to someone willing to engage in blatant racism, anti-Semitism, and homophobia, I assume that you feel that he bears no responsibility for hiring somebody who would publish a cartoon that is literally Nazi propaganda. Like, your uber-logical, facts-don’t-care-about-your-feelings, data-oriented mind can’t wrap your head around the possibility that there maaaaay be a wee problem here?
Where in the Constitution should that be allowed?
You're calling the guy a racist bc of a federal holiday?
Hahahahaha
I sometimes wonder if his lawyers have been fully informed about stuff as far as potential legal exposure goes
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
So, uh, what’s the constitutional argument against creating federal holidays? I’m all ears here.
I must have missed the amendment that talks about Congress making federal holidays.
Can you point me to it?
I dunno. Since they’ve been doing it for the past 150 years or so, I assume it’s one of those danged old implied powers. You’d think, were it unconstitutional, that the courts would have decided at some point in the last two centuries or so that it was, indeed unconstitutional. But, huh, they haven’t.
You’re Dunning-Kruger personified. It gives me shivers that you think you’re an authority on constitutional law because you’ve watched some YouTube videos.
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So, uh, can you help a dummy like me by pointing to where in the Constitution it says that Congress can’t create a federal holiday?
10th amendment
The history of federal holidays in the United States dates back to June 28, 1870, when Congress created federal holidays "to correspond with similar laws of States around the District ... and ... in every State of the Union."[2] Although at first applicable only to federal employees in the District of Columbia, Congress extended coverage in 1885 to all federal employees.
The original four holidays were:
New Year's Day
Independence Day
Thanksgiving Day
Christmas Day
George Washington's Birthday became a Federal holiday in 1880. In 1888 and 1894, respectively, Decoration Day (now Memorial Day) and Labor Day were created. In 1938, Armistice Day (now Veterans Day) was created to mark the end of World War I. The scope and the name of the holiday was expanded in 1954 to honor Americans who fought in World War II and the Korean War.
In 1968, the Monday Holiday Act of 1968 shifted several holidays to always fall on a Monday and saw the establishment of Columbus Day.
In 1983, the birthday of Martin Luther King Jr. became the nation's most recently established holiday
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I don't know if voting against MLK day makes you a racist or just shines a light on you as being a dick
Last edited by 57Brave; 09-14-2018 at 06:55 PM.
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Congresen swear an oath to uphold the Constitution.
Voting on a federal holiday doesn't support that.
RACIST
So, uh, designating a federal holiday does not burden the states. It means that federal employees and DC people get the day off. Try again.
I would think that since 1870 this has been referred to a court somewhere and a judge or two (or three) somewhere disagreed with your assessment.
I would think in 1870 it passed judicial muster as it did in subsequent tests
Simple question
Why don't you get involved?
Become a judge, legislator or administrator
You have very strong passionate ideas that some may say are going to waste.
Others would say ... others would say.
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The Constitution is a guide of what the government can do.
I asked you earlier, where in the Constitution can the government create federal holidays?
You didn't answer
I'm stunned
Section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
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Not a judicial scholar but I think this answers your question.
Kind of a broad term but, general welfare clause covers more ground than one lay person would imagine.
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For instance, I learned last week Roe v wade is considered established law for reasons that have nothing to do with your 3 AM pizza discussions on the morality of abortion. Least of all questioning the scientific definitions
Constitution is a pretty amazing vehicle . Best left to those that have put in the work to understand it's meaning and it's ambiguity
Last edited by 57Brave; 09-14-2018 at 07:27 PM.
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Oh, so you realized the 10th Amendment didn’t fly. That’s a chuckle, honestly.
So what you are arguing is that Congress does not have the power to declare federal holidays. The grounds on which you are arguing that, I guess, boil down to the fact it is not specifically enumerated power. Its odd, then, I guess because implied powers don’t exist in this worldview, that nobody’s ever made this blindingly obvious case in front of the courts: hey, SCOTUS: Congress—which holds the power of the purse wrt federal employees—actually can’t designate a federal holiday because it’s not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. Like, I wonder why that’s never flown.
Let’s remember how we got here. We’re having an abstruse argument over constitutional law because you couldn’t just call a racism a racism. So you insisted that I find ONE VOTE that indicated that Ron Paul was a racist, and I suggested that his persistent opposition to the MLK holiday probably did the trick. “NO, NO!” you insisted, “that’s a constitutional issue”...but you are then unable to articulate why congress creating a federal holiday is in fact unconstitutional. All, basically, ‘cause you’re too chicken**** to address the actual issue, which is racism, which is clearly expressed in the newsletters and the Nazi cartoon. Brother. Take the L.
A good rule of thumb Grasshopper.
When you come across someone on a baseball message board touting their certainty on constitutional nuance always remember.
You are on a baseball message board reading someone touting their certainty on constitutional nuance
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