Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

[thethe]

So the senior leadership at the FBI wanted to end up with egg on their faces??? Where's your logic in that?

This is stupid. They obviously thought they would never get caught.

[Runnin]

This is stupid. They obviously thought they would never get caught.

You'Re right. It is stupid. People at the FBI operate on one cental tenet - everybody gets caught eventually.

[thethe]

You'Re right. It is stupid. People at the FBI operate on one cental tenet - everybody gets caught eventually.

Not the investigators.

The FBI KNEW that Page was a CIA asset and they pursued a FISA on him already.

If you can't realize what the reason for that was then I just can't help you.

All of this was to spy on the Trump campaign. ALL OF IT.

Most corrupt president in our countries history and a point in history that will live in infamy forever.

[Metaphysicist]

Not the investigators.

The FBI KNEW that Page was a CIA asset and they pursued a FISA on him.

What do you think a CIA asset is, and what is the evidence that Page was one, and why does that matter for a FISA?

[thethe]

What do you think a CIA asset is, and what is the evidence that Page was one, and why does that matter for a FISA?

The basis for the FISA was Pages contacts with Russia and their implications on infiltration into a presidential campaign.

But his contacts in no way could have led to that based on the reason he had contacts with them in the first place.

There is no excuse for the FBI thinking that Page was a vulnerability because of communications with Russia.

[Metaphysicist]

That doesn’t really answer what I asked?

[Runnin]

Not the investigators.

The FBI KNEW that Page was a CIA asset and they pursued a FISA on him already.

If you can't realize what the reason for that was then I just can't help you.

All of this was to spy on the Trump campaign. ALL OF IT.

Most corrupt president in our countries history and a point in history that will live in infamy forever.

I'm totally good with the FBI finding lawful ways to keep an eye on Trump, then and now. They would be derelict in the duty if they didn't.

[goldfly]

the Trump campaign. ALL OF IT.

Most corrupt president in our countries history and a point in history that will live in infamy forever.

you said it man

[thethe]

I'm totally good with the FBI finding lawful ways to keep an eye on Trump, then and now. They would be derelict in the duty if they didn't.

They defrauded the FISA court.

What you really wanted to say is you are fine with the fbi finding unlawful ways.

[thethe]

That doesn’t really answer what I asked?

It speaks to the central issue at debate which is the FBI illegally obtaining a FISA warrant in a US citizen just so they could spy on the Trump campaign.

[Metaphysicist]

So you aren't gonna answer. Got it.

[thethe]

So you aren't gonna answer. Got it.

Your question is an irrelevant sidetrack from the central issue which you actually never answered.

And that is why did the FBI get a FISA warrant on Page when they knew he wasnt a russian asset.

[Metaphysicist]

I imagine that wasn't something they knew. Now you go.

[thethe]

I imagine that wasn't something they knew. Now you go.

Not after the information share policies put in after 9/11 but I understand why you want to believe that.

[thethe]

I imagine that wasn't something they knew. Now you go.

Not after the information share policies put in after 9/11 but I understand why you want to believe that. Continue to give these agents and senior leadership the benefit of the doubt all the while they've shown no reason to earn that generosity.

[Metaphysicist]

Now you go

Ahem.

[thethe]

What do you think a CIA asset is, and what is the evidence that Page was one, and why does that matter for a FISA?

CIA asset is a source which the CIA can rely on for either information or disinformation implementation.

It is a known fact that the CIA has used Page as an intelligence asset specially related to Russia

Are you actually asking the last question?

[Runnin]

They defrauded the FISA court.

What you really wanted to say is you are fine with the fbi finding unlawful ways.

There are plenty of ways within the law, both in policy and policy norms, except Trump is breaking those laws and norms.

[Metaphysicist]

CIA asset is a source which the CIA can rely on for either information or disinformation implementation.

It is a known fact that the CIA has used Page as an intelligence asset specially related to Russia

Are you actually asking the last question?

Sure. Why does the fact that the CIA at some point used someone for information mean they should be FISA ineligible? That doesn't seem obvious to me.

[thethe]

Sure. Why does the fact that the CIA at some point used someone for information mean they should be FISA ineligible? That doesn't seem obvious to me.

Because his prior contacts which caused concern from the fbi, as per their token FISA statement, resulted from work done for the CIA.

It's very clear what happened here. FBI used a false pretext to get communications while Page was on the Trump campaign. You know that. I know that and most importantly Barr/Durham know that.