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Thread: Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

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    He's still potentially in lots of trouble. The grace he gets for cooperating is limited to the single charge. The rest is still hanging over him, sounds like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This is big...

    In reality it's just a president elect building relationship's with foreign leaders. Basically what every American should expect out of any president elect.
    So why all the lying about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    So why all the lying about it?
    Didn't say the investigation should stop.
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    This has nothing to do with my schadenfreude. I'm just impressed with the video and editing skills of whoever put this together.
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    ... and now ABC completely turns tail.

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    It definitely makes the public state of affairs as known today sound less juicy and sinister. But Flynn cooperating has got to be bad for the WH. He wasn't given a deal just for giggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    ... and now ABC completely turns tail.
    How many times is this now? It's like groundhog day with the left.
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    The amusing part of yesterday is that you saw many 'level headed' posters shown their true colors by the reaction to the Flynn news yesterday. The hate is real. The reality....just not there yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This ended up to be relatively prophetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I know its MSM giving a shoutout to MSM but this paragraph is interesting:

    ABC News reported Friday that Flynn is prepared to tell Mueller's team that Trump had instructed him to make contact with Russia during the campaign itself. If those contacts involved the emails the U.S. intelligence community charges Russia stole from leading Democrats, then Mueller will have uncovered evidence of actual collusion between the president and a foreign adversary during the election. Impeachment could then be in the cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It definitely makes the public state of affairs as known today sound less juicy and sinister. But Flynn cooperating has got to be bad for the WH. He wasn't given a deal just for giggles.
    Maybe he was given a deal because the Mueller investigation has yielded nothing and something had to be given to the hysterical masses looking for blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I do like how all of the acknowledged Russian contacts (including the alleged Kushner request for a secure channel to Moscow outside of US intel ears) are explained away as them being so hot to defeat ISIS that they couldn't restrain themselves.

    You can just hear the appended "believe me."
    Why wouldn't they request a secure channel? Obama and deep state have been illegally spying on trump for a long time.

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    For those of you who cling to the belief that this is a big nothing burger, I offer the following considerations:

    Flynn’s encounters with Kislyak get at central questions about the 2016 Presidential campaign and election: why were Trump and Russia doing one another’s bidding, and was there any sort of quid pro quo between Trump and Russia in the event that he won? Flynn has now committed himself to answering those questions.

    Maybe his answers to those questions are exculpatory. Maybe not. I lean toward the latter view, partly because the special prosecutor is unlikely to have accepted Flynn's proffer unless it pointed to malfeasance further up the chain of command.

    It is worth noting that it is unclear that a quid pro quo between the Trump campaign and Russia would constitute a crime. However, even if the quid pro quo was structured in a way so that it was not a crime in a technical legal sense, revelation of a quid pro quo would be politically problematic, to put it mildly.

    Finally, it is also worth noting that Rosenstein's instructions to the special prosecutor call for an investigation into Russia's attempts to influence the elections. That is Mueller's primary job. But from a political point of view, two things incidental to that primary purpose have greater importance. One is possible obstruction. The second is possible quid pro quo between Trump and Russia.
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    Trying to use the logan act here is great. Please make this your case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    For those of you who cling to the belief that this is a big nothing burger, I offer the following considerations:

    Flynn’s encounters with Kislyak get at central questions about the 2016 Presidential campaign and election: why were Trump and Russia doing one another’s bidding, and was there any sort of quid pro quo between Trump and Russia in the event that he won? Flynn has now committed himself to answering those questions.

    Maybe his answers to those questions are exculpatory. Maybe not. I lean toward the former view, partly because the special prosecutor is unlikely to have accepted Flynn's proffer unless it pointed to malfeasance further up the chain of command.
    You've gone from this is it to well maybe there is more real quick.

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    You know this Flynn plea is nothing if joy reid didn't lead with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You know this Flynn plea is nothing if joy reid didn't lead with it
    It's something to Flynn. He didn't plead guilty for the fun of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    It's something to Flynn. He didn't plead guilty for the fun of it.
    If this is it then I would forsee a pardon for Flynn shortly after charges are levied

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    As much as I don't care for POTUS, this is sounding more "unsavory" and less "impeachable" by the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    As much as I don't care for POTUS, this is sounding more "unsavory" and less "impeachable" by the moment.
    At this time they have NOTHING on collusion. That can change but after all this time this is the best Mueller has? What a farse (so far).
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