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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You know regs would prevent him from asking about political leanings, right?

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    Muellers a pretty smart guy right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Once you qualified mills/abedins lies I knew nothing I could show would make a difference. This is obviously on party lines and you're not only comfortable with it but happy that partisan leftists are prosecting this fake scandal.
    That's just the thing. You can't show anything. You haven't, and I doubt that you will.

    If you took Mills to court you'd get owned by a middling jr. high debate student, to say nothing of a real lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Muellers a pretty smart guy right?
    For a Republican.

    ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    That's just the thing. You can't show anything. You haven't, and I doubt that you will.

    If you took Mills to court you'd get owned by a middling jr. high debate student, to say nothing of a real lawyer.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/04/cl...bi-supervisor/

    Wordsmith it anyway you want. Maybe it doesn't hold up in a courtroom but it'd pretty clear (at least to my HRC hating ears) that they both clearly new of the server prior to the time they indicated on their fbi statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Muellers a pretty smart guy right?
    for a Republican
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    For a Republican.

    ;-)
    well...addled minds think alike...I believe that's the Russian version of the proverb
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Muellers a pretty smart guy right?
    Apparently not smart enough to use the Google box.

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    To borrow the mantra of this thread: maybe it's nothing, maybe it's something.

    I get that DC is a cesspool of incest, but avoiding these kinds of obvious COI seems like it might should have been a priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    To borrow the mantra of this thread: maybe it's nothing, maybe it's something.

    I get that DC is a cesspool of incest, but avoiding these kinds of obvious COI seems like it might should have been a priority.
    It's pretty clear what the priority is and who is setting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It's pretty clear what the priority is and who is setting it.
    Unpossible. Cuz Mueller once registered as a Republican.

    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    To borrow the mantra of this thread: maybe it's nothing, maybe it's something.

    I get that DC is a cesspool of incest, but avoiding these kinds of obvious COI seems like it might should have been a priority.
    I don't think a lawyer's past client list is evidence of COI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Unpossible. Cuz Mueller once registered as a Republican.

    ...
    There is also the small matter that ultimately the findings of Mueller and company will be judged by the court of public opinion (and Congress if it comes to impeachment) and the judges that the cases get assigned to (plus juries and appellate courts and so forth).

    I understand there is also a political contest going on. Trump and his partisans want to undermine any negative findings and these allegations of COI help them. And of course he is getting Benghazied by his opponents on a grand scale. That's how politics gets played.

    The big question is whether he fires Mueller before he can wrap up his investigation. I think the odds are better than 50% he will. And if he does, it won't be because of COI, though that might be used as a convenient fig leaf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I don't think a lawyer's past client list is evidence of COI.
    In a normal situation I agree. This case is not normal by any means and mueller should have done everything possible to eliminate speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    There is also the small matter that ultimately the findings of Mueller and company will be judged by the court of legal opinion (and Congress if it comes to impeachment) and the real judges that the cases get assigned to (plus juries and appellate courts and so forth).

    I understand there is also a political contest going on. Trump and his partisans want to undermine any negative findings and these allegations of COI help them. And of course he is getting Benghazied by his opponents on a grand scale. That's how politics gets played.

    The big question is whether he fires Mueller before he can wrap up his investigation. I think the odds are better than 50% he will. And if he does, it won't be because of COI.
    Firing Mueller would be equivalent to writing his own death sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I don't think a lawyer's past client list is evidence of COI.
    https://www.americanbar.org/newslett...finterest.html

    Figuring out whether you have a conflict is often the most difficult step. As noted previously, you must determine whether external interests—your own or those of other clients or third persons—are likely to impact your exercise of independent professional judgment. Information is the key to this analysis. Lawyers must have access to good information regarding their own interests (investments, etc.) and the interests of their families, other clients, and relevant third parties. This can be difficult enough for a single lawyer but is even more difficult for lawyers in firms because they must have access to this information for partners, associates, and staff members as well.

    It is surprising how many lawyers play ostrich when it comes to conflicts, simply ignoring potential problems. Others assume that they remember all past and current clients and can anticipate conflicts from memory. Both approaches are dangerous; even for lawyers in solo or small firm practice, relying on memory is simply not adequate. All lawyers should adopt and use conflict-checking systems appropriate to the size and type of their practice. Conflict-checking software can be run in conjunction with case management and time and billing software, making it relatively easy to check for potential problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    In a normal situation I agree. This case is not normal by any means and mueller should have done everything possible to eliminate speculation.
    Dis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    https://www.americanbar.org/newslett...finterest.html

    Figuring out whether you have a conflict is often the most difficult step. As noted previously, you must determine whether external interests—your own or those of other clients or third persons—are likely to impact your exercise of independent professional judgment. Information is the key to this analysis. Lawyers must have access to good information regarding their own interests (investments, etc.) and the interests of their families, other clients, and relevant third parties. This can be difficult enough for a single lawyer but is even more difficult for lawyers in firms because they must have access to this information for partners, associates, and staff members as well.

    It is surprising how many lawyers play ostrich when it comes to conflicts, simply ignoring potential problems. Others assume that they remember all past and current clients and can anticipate conflicts from memory. Both approaches are dangerous; even for lawyers in solo or small firm practice, relying on memory is simply not adequate. All lawyers should adopt and use conflict-checking systems appropriate to the size and type of their practice. Conflict-checking software can be run in conjunction with case management and time and billing software, making it relatively easy to check for potential problems.
    I'm sorry but did I miss the part where past clients constitute a COI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Firing Mueller would be equivalent to writing his own death sentence.
    Desperate men do desperate things. And his acolytes (and dare I say there are a few posting in this thread) will defend him for this when the time comes. They might even cite COI.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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