When is this dumb thread gonna die?
Move on to something that matters. This is just chasing your tail
When is this dumb thread gonna die?
Move on to something that matters. This is just chasing your tail
I'm very curious about what Papadopoulos was up to in the weeks ahead of his arrest...there is a small amount of information in the public domain but it is pretty fragmentary
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Another reasonable explanation. Sure is convenient timing to release this story as more is being learned about the use/importance of the Dossier.
Natural Immunity Croc
I'm responding to your saying it's extraneous. It's not--not if one is intellectually honest, anyway. I don't know what "the exchange" was, or if there was one. It's also quite possible Manafort was canned before he had a chance to do anything but passive influence, if indeed there was any intent at all. But if you're remotely grounded in reality, that guy seeking out the campaign and volunteering to work for free is a neon-lit blinking sign that says "investigate me."
Fantastic. Investigate away. But it does not strengthen a case for collusion at all. Every single political candidate is targeted to gain influence by various special interests, many of those of foreign national variety. The FISA warrant documentation has been released. We are going to learn a lot in the next couple of weeks.
Natural Immunity Croc
Some interesting stuff about Sergei Millian at the end of the article. There are rumors he was one of Steele's sources.
Here's a bit more about Mr. Millian
http://www.businessinsider.com/jared...russia-2017-11
Last edited by nsacpi; 12-30-2017 at 08:46 PM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I know this article is very long and will give most of you a headache to read, but it is the most complete account of what I think happened in terms of creating a financial dependency between Trump and the Russians.
http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/29/d...nk-753780.html
The money quote is from Richard Dearlove, the former head of British secret intelligence service MI6.
“What lingers for Trump may be what deals—on what terms—he did after the financial crisis of 2008 to borrow Russian money when others in the West would not lend to him.”
Last edited by nsacpi; 12-31-2017 at 12:21 PM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Never really feel like we've heard a convincing explanation for this one:
There was another Kushner-Kislyak meeting, on December 1 at Trump Tower. Flynn, Trump’s adviser, was present too, as Kushner made an unusual proposal: He asked Kislyak if it would be possible to set up a secret and secure communications channel between the Trump transition team and the Kremlin. The purpose, it seems, was to keep their conversations hidden from the outgoing Obama administration and U.S. intelligence. Could this be done, Kushner wondered, by using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States? The inquiry was staggeringly naïve.
Further, for such an intricate Web of collusion it's odd how so many desperate attempts were made to have the trump campaign and Putin meet.
If you want to start building positive relations with a key world power without the obvious backlash from a desperate administration looking to keeps its skeletons in yhe closest then yes it's a good move.
We need Russia to play ball on iran/korea/Islamic terrorism. I know you've rejected that notion in the past ad you're entitled to that belief but that is what I'd happening in my opinion.
Even the article linked by nsacpi discusses the case of collusion by establishing this long Web of financial contacts and yet the papa case is of a beginning point in a relationship between the trump campaign and russia. So which is it?
I've read a somewhat different take. At the meeting where Papadopoulos talked up his contacts, Trump was interested but non-committal. Sessions is the guy who shut down the discussion.
I also think the campaign at some point realized (at about the time when Manafort was let go as campaign manager) that it was not in its interests to appear to be too close to the Russians.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/29/o...mpression=true
Cnn turning the corner?