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Thread: Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

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    now that the verbiage is bantered by "leading Republicans"
    and it is only a matter of time ...
    let's get this out of the way.


    Article 3, Section III

    "Treason. Treason against the United States, shall consist

    only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving

    them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on

    the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession

    in open Court."



    no, pillow talk about a Presidential candidate doesn't make the cut
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    Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) was castigated online on Sunday after she appeared to repeat Trump administration talking points on North Korea and Iran.

    During an interview on ABC’s This Week, Cheney praised the foreign policy and military stance of the Trump administration and she accused former President Barack Obama of making the country weaker.

    “My view, Martha, is that we are doing the right thing in terms of the policy towards North Korea, and when you look at the situation President Trump inherited, whether you’re talking about North Korea, whether you’re talking about Iran, whether you’re talking about the tremendous hole that the Obama Administration dug with respect to our armed forces around the world, the president is doing the right thing,” Cheney said.

    She also insisted that Trump is making the “right move” by deploying troops near Iran.

    “There’s no question but that this threat,” Cheney said of Iran. “It’s very important for the Iranians to understand that we’ll do what’s necessary to deter them from attacking us through our interests and we’ll do what’s necessary to make sure that they understand we aren’t simply going to sit back and allow them to take action that will put our people in harm’s way. I think the president is doing exactly the right thing and I support the actions.”

    Following Cheney’s interview, Twitter users lashed out at the lawmaker for acting like a Trump sycophant. In one tweet, former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara urged Cheney to “read the Constitution” because she had misused the word “treason.”
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    Preet Bharara
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    Elected officials keep making casual, ignorant, idiotic accusations of “treason.” Trump does it. Just saw Liz Cheney do it. Read the Constitution and knock it the hell off.

    10:26 AM - 26 May 2019
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    and having said all of that :



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    Trump is investigating his perceived enemies and accusing

    law-abiding Americans of treason (punishable by death) while

    praising murderous Dictator Kim Jong Un's insult of Biden.
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    If Trump treated the Russia Probe like he is treating the investigation Barr is doing few people would have considered him in bed with Putin. This investigation is showing what full cooperation is and its the exact opposite of what Trump did during the Russia probe. As I have said time and again, if Hillary went around yeling "No Benghazi" all the time and did everything he could to not cooperate I think everyone would have assumed her guilt too. Innocent people generally want to cooperate to clear their name. Guilty people try to obstruct justice. Trump 100% agrees with this for everyone but him and his cronies.



    In the end I know no Trump tards are going to accept that the people investigated here are innocent regardless of what they find.
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    How did Trump not cooperate during the Russia probe?
    Natural Immunity Croc

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    Is that a serious question? For starters he refused to be interviewed. I am sure you would be perfectly fine with the people Barr is investigating only giving answers in writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Is that a serious question?
    Absolutely serious - Which requests other than a personal interview was Mueller denied? Access to any specific documents? Witnesses? Executive privilege asserted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Absolutely serious - Which requests other than a personal interview was Mueller denied? Access to any specific documents? Witnesses? Executive privilege asserted?
    Sekulow declined to be interviewed regarding witness tampering.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Sekulow declined to be interviewed regarding witness tampering.
    OMG! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!

    Do you believe in transparency or not? What of the origins of the investigation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    OMG! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!

    Do you believe in transparency or not? What of the origins of the investigation?
    you asked a question and cajun and I both provided answers...sorry you didnt like our answers...easy on the caps
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    you asked a question and cajun and I both provided answers...sorry you didnt like our answers...easy on the caps
    Did Trump do the "exact opposite" of full cooperation as Cajun noted?
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    Yeah, I mean other than refusing to be interviewed and providing incomplete answers to written questions, dangling pardons to defendants, tampering with witnesses, pushing the FBI director to drop the investigation and firing him when he didn’t, and attempting to shut down the investigation on numerous fronts, dude was thoroughly cooperative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Yeah, I mean other than refusing to be interviewed and providing incomplete answers to written questions, dangling pardons to defendants, tampering with witnesses, pushing the FBI director to drop the investigation and firing him when he didn’t, and attempting to shut down the investigation on numerous fronts, dude was thoroughly cooperative.
    How dare the President fire one of his workers. I mean these unelected bureaucrats deserve to not be held accountable by the elected president of the united states.

    Lets just ignore that individual who was fired peddled a debunked dossier and proved to be a partisan hack afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Absolutely serious - Which requests other than a personal interview was Mueller denied? Access to any specific documents? Witnesses? Executive privilege asserted?

    I will get to that but my main point is to compare his actions on this investigation and the Mueller investigation. Remember, he knows he isnt guilty so he supposedly has nothing to hide from either investigation. In this new one he publicly ordered all intelligence officials to cooperate fully with the investigation. He has ordered anything relevant to be declassified. Thats what full cooperation looks like. I only recall him being okay with people testifying after they already did so like with McGahn who was then promptly fired.




    I know I already touched on the written answers but heres a quote from Mueller about those written answers.

    "We informed counsel of the insufficiency of those responses in several respects. We noted, among other things, that the President stated on more than 30 occasions that he ‘does not recall’ or ‘remember’ or have an ‘independent recollection’ of information called for by the questions. Other answers were ‘incomplete or imprecise.’ "



    Mueller sought for a year to get an interview with Trump and only got written answers with no ability to ask follow up questions in which the very stable genius with a great memory said "I dont remember" to over 30 questions.



    There was the firing of Comey who was leading the Russia investigation that resulted in the special counsel in the first place. That was done specifically because it was obvious Trump would just fire any FBI director who didnt end the investigation he supposedly wasnt guilty of.



    Trump ordering McGahn to fire Mueller wasnt full cooperation. If Trump full cooperated why did Mueller consider a subpoena only to decide against it because it would be challenged in court? You dont need subpoenas for people who fully cooperate to get testimony. Attacking Mueller publicly and the investigation is not full cooperation either. Mueller conducted probably the most fair investigation I have ever seen in such a polarizing political climate and Trump continues to smear him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    How dare the President fire one of his workers. I mean these unelected bureaucrats deserve to not be held accountable by the elected president of the united states.

    Lets just ignore that individual who was fired peddled a debunked dossier and proved to be a partisan hack afterwards.

    So why does John Bolton have a job then?



    This Russia thing is about his ego to Trump. He is desperately trying to not have his election win tainted. I dont for a second believe Russia managed to flip the election but its becoming clear that #1 priority to Trump is his massive ego. He will shut down the legislative process just because mean words were said about him. Agree or not with Trump but that is just not acceptable. This guy is a looney toon and putting national security in his hands is bat**** crazy. Foreign leaders play him like a piano. All you have to do is stroke his ego and he will be your best friend.
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    thethe also believes Trump when he says he has had the most transparent presidency in history.

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    I would say the most unintentionally transparent, but only because their lies are so bad and obvious. Kind of like how the Iraqi Information Minister was transparent.
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    Mueller about to make a statement in 2 minutes. Not going to take questions.....
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