Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

**nsacpi** · 02-01-2018, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by thethe

Flynn would have been a great asset to Trumps team. I don't consider his 'crime' to be worth the black mark he was given. He should have fully disclosed his relationships but it would not have impacted the American people.

Trump knows the type of person Flynn was and what type of an asset he would have been.

obstruction is obstruction, independent of any one person's assessment of the character of the parties involved...i might add that my assessment of Flynn is quite different from yours...but one of the characteristics of a sound legal system is that Flynn's treatment be independent of what you or I think of him...or even what Trump or Mueller think of him...maybe at sentencing there can be an appropriate accounting of what the character witnesses have to say.

**bravesnumberone** · 02-01-2018, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by thethe

First off I'm not saying that foreign nationals are good. I'm arguing that the interests that are filtering into campaigns from multi-national companies are the same thing. You have wealthy powerful people around the globe trying to wield influence.

Not sure how that spits in the face of America First.

**Hawk** · 02-01-2018, 04:57 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/b...ice-prove.html

Why Obstruction of Justice Is a Hard Crime to Prove

**bravesnumberone** · 02-01-2018, 05:00 PM

Ole Donny Jr...having a tough time keeping his mouth shut.

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It was good enough to fire McCabe, no one argues its factually inaccurate, but now days later they want to protect the names of those involved in a scandal that was big enough to fire a senior official a month before retirement? They don’t deserve a pass on that!

**Hawk** · 02-01-2018, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Julio3000

You're Mr. America First. Maybe you should answer your own question.

I mean, is recruitment by a foreign intelligence agency or trading your influence to your oligarch creditor really = getting a check from GE or Samsung?

Objection: leading
Objection: speculation

**bravesnumberone** · 02-01-2018, 05:06 PM

haha I didn't realize thethe was on trial here. Cool.

**nsacpi** · 02-01-2018, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Hawk

Objection: leading
Objection: speculation

permission to treat the witness as a hostile witness

**Hawk** · 02-01-2018, 05:22 PM

**Hawk** · 02-01-2018, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by nsacpi

permission to treat the witness as a hostile witness

Who's the judge? I forget.

**thethe** · 02-01-2018, 05:42 PM

**thethe** · 02-01-2018, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by nsacpi

permission to treat the witness as a hostile witness

I wouldn't have it any other way with you

**thethe** · 02-01-2018, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by nsacpi

obstruction is obstruction, independent of any one person's assessment of the character of the parties involved...i might add that my assessment of Flynn is quite different from yours...but one of the characteristics of a sound legal system is that Flynn's treatment be independent of what you or I think of him...or even what Trump or Mueller think of him...maybe at sentencing there can be an appropriate accounting of what the character witnesses have to say.

How are you going to argue that Trump obstructed by using his constitutionally granted powers?

**bravesnumberone** · 02-01-2018, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Hawk

Interesting the lawyer he brought in that specializes in federal plea deals remains.

**nsacpi** · 02-01-2018, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Hawk

Who's the judge? I forget.

wapner

**nsacpi** · 02-01-2018, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by bravesnumberone

Interesting the lawyer he brought in that specializes in federal plea deals remains.

I think Manafort is gonna flip as well.

I'm gonna go out on a speculative limb and guess he has information about payments made to the hackers and payments made to and by cutouts such as Peter W Smith. Could be that Rick Gates has some of that information as well.

**The Chosen One** · 02-01-2018, 06:56 PM

Would be hilarious if Trump genuinely thinks there was no collusion, because the supporting cast around him did everything and brokered stuff behind his back without telling him knowing he's an idiot. And then proceeds to watch everyone around him including his family burn by this investigation whilst still confidently proclaiming there's no collusion. again no collusion. absolutely no collusion.

**The Chosen One** · 02-01-2018, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by thethe

There's several ways to interpret this.

I know how you are interpreting it though.

**nsacpi** · 02-01-2018, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by thethe

How are you going to argue that Trump obstructed by using his constitutionally granted powers?

abuse of power is a thing

**Krgrecw** · 02-01-2018, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by nsacpi

abuse of power is a thing

Yeah. Loretta Lynch can write a book on it

**The Chosen One** · 02-01-2018, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Krgrecw

Yeah. Loretta Lynch can write a book on it

So you're saying they're both guilty?

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