A couple other observations. I doubt very much that the plea bargains reached with Flynn, Papadopoulos and apparently now Gates had to do with them providing evidence on today's indictments. Those guilty pleas were accepted because they can provide evidence on crimes by bigger fish further up the food chain. Papadopoulos almost surely has no information relevant to the obstruction aspects of the investigation. Or the aspects that might relate to financial crimes. By a process of elimination, I am left to conclude that any evidence he has to offer has to do with the quid pro quo with the Russians aspect of the investigation.
Flynn probably has evidence relevant to both the obstruction and quid pro quo aspects. Gates I suspect will mainly be used to flip Manafort, who I suspect has information mostly about the quid pro quo part of the investigation.
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"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Well you're wrong because it was dead in June.
I don't understand why people make Fox News jokes on this board like it's still 2000.
I subscribe to Sling TV. There is no Fox News on Sling TV.
I get BBC News, France 24, Euronews, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, CCTV, etc.
I judge any adult that seriously watches CNN. I judge any network that would give Chris Cuomo a TV show.
I judge American news in general.
Some of you clearly watch too much of it.
Because like 2000, Fox News is a joke. And saying things like collusion was dead in June is in perfect alignment with them.
I read mostly newspapers and internet. Any cable news watching is election returns for the most part.
Feel free to point out any single indictment, rumored indictment, or plea which substantiates any angle of a collusion narrative.
The catch is that you can't presume the Gates domino theory (which was the same theory we heard with Flynn and then PapaD).
What will the angle be when the Flynn deal is vacated?
I mean, I guess I know what your big-picture opinion is. It may very well even be correct. I'm asking why you seem so certain that these indictments, and Papa's, and Manafort's, positively support your point of view rather than being just...I dunno...neutral or inscrutable.
BTW, slick repositioning of the ol' goalposts with "I was promised a puppet." Certainly not by me.
The desperation for collusion to be there would be cute if it wasn't so sad
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Maybe you just don't care to read anything that contradicts your bias. I for one enjoy reading/watching leftist material so I can understand the opposition. I encourage you to read the national review piece that I linked a couple of days ago. All the information you need is right in there. The recusal of the original judge that sat for the plea deal is a very interesting tidbit.
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