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    Donald Trump and the political action committees for Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Lindsey Graham, John Kasich and John McCain accepted $7.35 million in contributions from a Ukrainian-born oligarch who is the business partner of two of Russian president Vladimir Putin's favorite oligarchs and a Russian government bank.

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    Party loyalty is often cited as the reason that GOP leaders have not been more outspoken in their criticism of President Donald Trump and his refusal to condemn Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election. Yet there may be another reason that top Republicans have not been more vocal in their condemnation. Perhaps it's because they have their own links to the Russian oligarchy that they would prefer go unnoticed.




    I don't see Paul Ryan's name.
    Yet
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    Walls are closing in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Walls are closing in!
    " Under federal law, foreigner nationals are barred from contributing directly or indirectly to political campaigns in local, state and federal elections."



    or so much as helping set out yard signs
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    Two weeks after the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement in October 2016 that the Russian government had directed the effort to interfere in our electoral process, McConnell's PAC accepted a $1 million donation from Blavatnik's AI-Altep Holdings. The PAC took another $1 million from Blavatnik's AI-Altep Holdings on March 30, 2017, just 10 days after former FBI Director James Comey publicly testified before the House Intelligence Committee about Russia's interference in the election.
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102803413.html

    Please continue to go down this road. What we will end up finding is china has bought moatly every politican for the last few decades

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    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...egal-donations

    Lets not forget about this of course

    But i know...tge world only started 2 years ago.

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    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...-scheme-226147

    Good thing the internet never forgets

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    you should really start reading the material

    A press release from U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman suggested that the Obama Victory Fund, which was not directly named, was not aware of the illegally-sourced donation.

    "No one on the joint fundraising committee has been accused of any wrongdoing, and the committee has fully cooperated in the investigation leading to today’s guilty plea," the release said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    you should really start reading the material

    A press release from U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman suggested that the Obama Victory Fund, which was not directly named, was not aware of the illegally-sourced donation.

    "No one on the joint fundraising committee has been accused of any wrongdoing, and the committee has fully cooperated in the investigation leading to today’s guilty plea," the release said.
    Hahaha...someone appointed by Obama said the campaign wasnt aware and yet what i believe was the largest fined ever levied on a campaign was enforced.

    You cant be serious here.

    Stop pretending like you care about foreign campaign donations.

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...n-donors%3famp

    Some more reading with a reminder of how much chinese money flowed through the clintons

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    The House Oversight Committee should immediately investigate, using its subpoena power, to see if there is, indeed, a flow of foreign money, via Obama.com, into the president’s campaign.


    and who was the Chair of the House Oversight Committee 2013-15 ?
    and they found ...


    you should get some rest it's been a long day
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    on the other hand, one can speculate McConnell's reasoning on refusing a vote on the shutdown and the chaos it foments by looking at the millions he is indebted and to whom.

    Speculate
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    The House Oversight Committee should immediately investigate, using its subpoena power, to see if there is, indeed, a flow of foreign money, via Obama.com, into the president’s campaign.


    and who was the Chair of the House Oversight Committee 2013-15 ?
    and they found ...


    you should get some rest it's been a long day
    .....................................

    on the other hand, one can speculate McConnell's reasoning on refusing a vote on the shutdown and the chaos it foments by looking at the millions he is indebted and to whom.

    Speculate
    Aww...yiu found the one blurb that wasnt incredibly damning. Of ciurse just because the committee was never done in no way exonerates the campaign but lets just skim over that reality.

    Back to how awful foreign campaign donations are!

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    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ted-to-clinton

    It just gets better and better.

    Heads should roll for this sham

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    When the annals of mistakes and abuses in the FBI’s Russia investigation are finally written, Bruce Ohr almost certainly will be the No. 1 witness, according to my sources.

    The then-No. 4 Department of Justice (DOJ) official briefed both senior FBI and DOJ officials in summer 2016 about Christopher Steele’s Russia dossier, explicitly cautioning that the British intelligence operative’s work was opposition research connected to Hillary Clinton’s campaign and might be biased.

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    Ohr’s briefings, in July and August 2016, included the deputy director of the FBI, a top lawyer for then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch and a Justice official who later would become the top deputy to special counsel Robert Mueller.


    At the time, Ohr was the associate attorney general. Yet his warnings about political bias were pointedly omitted weeks later from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant that the FBI obtained from a federal court, granting it permission to spy on whether the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia to hijack the 2016 presidential election.

    Ohr’s activities, chronicled in handwritten notes and congressional testimony I gleaned from sources, provide the most damning evidence to date that FBI and DOJ officials may have misled federal judges in October 2016 in their zeal to obtain the warrant targeting Trump adviser Carter Page just weeks before Election Day.

    They also contradict a key argument that House Democrats have made in their formal intelligence conclusions about the Russia case.


    Since it was disclosed last year that Steele’s dossier formed a central piece of evidence supporting the FISA warrant, Justice and FBI officials have been vague about exactly when they learned that Steele’s work was paid for by the law firm representing the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

    A redacted version of the FISA application released last year shows the FBI did not mention any connection to the DNC or Clinton. Rather, it referred to Steele as a reliable source in past criminal investigations who was hired by a person working for a U.S. law firm to conduct research on Trump and Russia.

    The FBI claimed it was “unaware of any derogatory information” about Steele, that Steele was “never advised … as to the motivation behind the research” but that the FBI “speculates” that those who hired Steele were “likely looking for information to discredit” Trump’s campaign.

    Yet, in testimony last summer to congressional investigators, Ohr revealed the FBI and Justice lawyers had no need to speculate: He explicitly warned them in a series of contacts, beginning July 31, 2016, that Steele expressed biased against Trump and was working on a project connected to the Clinton campaign.


    Ohr had firsthand knowledge about the motive and the client: He had just met with Steele on July 30, 2016, and Ohr’s wife, Nellie, worked for Fusion GPS, the same firm employing Steele.

    “I certainly told the FBI that Fusion GPS was working with, doing opposition research on Donald Trump,” Ohr told congressional investigators, adding that he warned the FBI that Steele expressed bias during their conversations.

    “I provided information to the FBI when I thought Christopher Steele was, as I said, desperate that Trump not be elected,” he added. “So, yes, of course I provided that to the FBI.”

    When pressed why he would offer that information to the FBI, Ohr answered: “In case there might be any kind of bias or anything like that.” He added later, “So when I provided it to the FBI, I tried to be clear that this is source information, I don’t know how reliable it is. You’re going to have to check it out and be aware.”

    Ohr went further, saying he disclosed to FBI agents that his wife and Steele were working for the same firm and that it was conducting the Trump-Russia research project at the behest of Trump’s Democratic rival, the Clinton campaign.

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    Ohr’s extensive testimony also undercuts one argument that House Democrats sought to make last year.

    When Republicans, in early 2018, first questioned Ohr’s connections to Steele, Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee sought to minimize the connection, insisting he only worked as an informer for the FBI after Steele was fired by the FBI in November 2016.

    The memo from Rep. Adam Schiff’s (D-Calif.) team claimed that Ohr’s contacts with the FBI only began “weeks after the election and more than a month after the Court approved the initial FISA application.”

    But Ohr’s testimony now debunks that claim, making clear he started talking to FBI and DOJ officials well before the FISA warrant or election had occurred.

    And his detailed answers provide a damning rebuttal to the FBI’s portrayal of the Steele material.

    In fact, the FBI did have derogatory information on Steele: Ohr explicitly told the FBI that Steele was desperate to defeat the man he was investigating and was biased.

    And the FBI knew the motive of the client and did not have to speculate: Ohr told agents the Democratic nominee’s campaign was connected to the research designed to harm Trump’s election chances.

    Such omissions are, by definition, an abuse of the FISA system.

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    Coup....plain and simple

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    "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said.
    He added, "I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC."


    The goalposts continue to move! A few months ago it was collusion isn't even a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Coup....plain and simple
    Only in your fantasy land where Trump is a martyr.

    I'm going to use the so what logic here that the Trump camp has used to slowly move the goalposts about collusion.

    So what if the dossier was biased, if the facts in the dossier are proven true does it matter if it was Jeb Bush or Hillary who paid for it? Trump campaign was complicit. The only real question was how much did trump know or if he was directly involved. And with how much he attacks the investigation he's certainly proving himself to be innocent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Only in your fantasy land where Trump is a martyr.

    I'm going to use the so what logic here that the Trump camp has used to slowly move the goalposts about collusion.

    So what if the dossier was biased, if the facts in the dossier are proven true does it matter if it was Jeb Bush or Hillary who paid for it? Trump campaign was complicit. The only real question was how much did trump know or if he was directly involved. And with how much he attacks the investigation he's certainly proving himself to be innocent.
    But the biggest claims in the Dossier were never proven and still remain unproven at this time.

    Yes, Russia wanted to interfere in our elections. If someone needed a Dossier to know that Russia interferes then I fear for our intelligence community in general. Just face the facts. They defrauded the FISA courts to spy on American citizens so it could appear that Trump colluded and therefore make his election illegitimate and his whole presidency. To be honest - Its worked for the most part so even with this damaging information to be released the majority of the left won't even know about it.

    Hopefully history will tell the truthful story and we will see how authoritarian the left/deep state became.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said.
    He added, "I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC."


    The goalposts continue to move! A few months ago it was collusion isn't even a crime.

    it's absurd and pretty obvious to anyone not up trumps ass or thethe that obviously something went down

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