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    “Maybe you do not much care about the Republican party. You should – conservatives will always be with us. When Conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, the will not abandon Conservatism. They will reject Democracy.”

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    I think they have been rejecting it for quite a while. The GOP seems to have decided to got to the mattresses with Trump. Has the next civil war already begun?
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    Jamie Dimon on American infrastructure

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post


    Jamie Dimon on American infrastructure
    We could replace/fix a lot of bridges and roads if we reduced military spending and legalized drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    We could replace/fix a lot of bridges and roads if we reduced military spending and legalized drugs.
    his point wasn't about funding... it was about the ridiculous regulation we have to go through to make things happen.

    It took 1 year 45 days to build the Empire State Building... it took 11 years to build the new WTC tower, despite the ridiculous increase in technology

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    i agree

    those things shouldn't take that long and we could still be safe in doing it


    5 died building the empire state building which is crazy it was only that many honestly
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    It's always perplexing to me that "regulations," in the abstract, are treated like an unalloyed evil. Something that makes private sector operation X more expensive and inefficient might also make X safer. Banking regulation Y might impose an opportunity cost on banks, but also make it less likely for them to fail and cause all kinds of societal harm. Dumping industrial byproducts in public waterways is definitely cheaper for industry than disposing of them safely, but it ****s up ecosystems and gives kids cancer. These are the kinds of choices we're making, and it seems like we could weigh costs and benefits more judiciously than we do when we decide in knee-jerk fashion that regulation is bad.

    Is it too much to ask to look at the whole equation instead of just the company's bottom line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It's always perplexing to me that "regulations," in the abstract, are treated like an unalloyed evil. Something that makes private sector operation X more expensive and inefficient might also make X safer. Banking regulation Y might impose an opportunity cost on banks, but also make it less likely for them to fail and cause all kinds of societal harm. Dumping industrial byproducts in public waterways is definitely cheaper for industry than disposing of them safely, but it ****s up ecosystems and gives kids cancer. These are the kinds of choices we're making, and it seems like we could weigh costs and benefits more judiciously than we do when we decide in knee-jerk fashion that regulation is bad.

    Is it too much to ask to look at the whole equation instead of just the company's bottom line?
    julio

    it's one or the other

    you can't be for a little bit of both

    it's why he somehow thinks i hate capitalism etc etc
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    “Maybe you do not much care about the Republican party. You should – conservatives will always be with us. When Conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, the will not abandon Conservatism. They will reject Democracy.”

    David Frum

    I think they have been rejecting it for quite a while. The GOP seems to have decided to got to the mattresses with Trump. Has the next civil war already begun?

    Has this not already started? Theres been numerous terrorist attacks by the religious right against abortion clinics and gays over the years. The Republican party already uses a lot of schemes to reduce the vote of people likely to vote against them. Voter ID isnt one of them. Thats just basic common sense. There are other real methods like gerrymandering, manipulating locations of voting stations, and of course arrest as many Negroes as possible. Lets be real, Republicans got less votes than Democrats in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections. The white demographic is shrinking while the minority demographic is growing. I think we are looking at the last hurrah of the Republican party. Maybe if this Trump presidency doesnt end in complete disaster they get another 20 years or relevance but in 20 years I dont see how they will be able to compete anymore. Their base are old religious white people with giant sticks up their butt and they are a dying breed. We will be a vastly different country once they go extinct.
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