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    Folty rookie year...
    86.2 ip 109 h 45 er 36 bb 92 k
    5.71 era
    1.63 whip

    Took him a minute and it'll take Newcomb a minute too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Ditto, i was ok with trading with him but do think we could have gotten a much bigger return had Coppy waited longer.

    Seeing Simba have a great year and make clutch hits for LA this year hurts tho.
    Coppy will ease those concerns by also trading Albies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The Angels have gotten almost 4 more wins at SS this year so far than the Braves.
    Not surprising, Simmons has had a great year.

    Obviously we havent had much from SS this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The Angels have gotten almost 4 more wins at SS this year so far than the Braves.
    I'm pretty chill and trust the FO, but I hated the Simmons' trade. Still do

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    You don't give up on an arm like this after 40 innings. Many wanted to banish Folty to the pen in his first year with us; now he's mentioned as a long term staple. Relax and let the kid develop. We aren't in the division race and not gonna make the wild card game. Leave him in the bigs, let him learn on the job, and watch him progress. Absolutely convinced Newk will be a #2 or #3 in our rotation for the long haul

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    For all of his warts, Newk has those innings where he flashes. That was an impressive inning.
    Which is why you show a little patience and don't give up on him after his first struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    So? The same logic still applies. He needs time.
    He needs to be given every opportunity to make it as a starter. But imo the odds are he will end up as a reliever.

    I also think we have an alternative in Sims who is probably more major league ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'm pretty chill and trust the FO, but I hated the Simmons' trade. Still do
    That, Wood deal, and Kimbrel/BJ deal main ones i hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I still like Newk but he needs to develop a 3rd pitch.
    When he throws the change-up, it looks pretty good. I'm not sure why he doesn't throw it more.

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    FF last 10 games...
    8/35 (.229) 12 k, 3 bb

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Folty rookie year...
    86.2 ip 109 h 45 er 36 bb 92 k
    5.71 era
    1.63 whip

    Took him a minute and it'll take Newcomb a minute too
    That's why you give guys with special arms every chance to make it as a starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    When he throws the change-up, it looks pretty good. I'm not sure why he doesn't throw it more.
    Could it be flowers not calling it enough?

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    Well last 2 innings are why you dont give up on Newk.

    6 innings, 3 runs vs the best team in the NL, made one mistake. Could have been much, much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    When he throws the change-up, it looks pretty good. I'm not sure why he doesn't throw it more.
    I'd say most of the time it doesn't look good. But some of them do. Let's just say it is a work in progress.
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    Classic Newcomb... struggles one inning, looks like Kershaw the next

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'd say most of the time it doesn't look good. But some of them do. Let's just say it is a work in progress.
    I should say the one's I've seen... and since he already doesn't throw many, I haven't seen many. What I've seen has looked pretty decent.

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    Well, it's a quality start if he's done. What a useless stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Well, it's a quality start if he's done. What a useless stat.
    He absolutely should be done. He rebounded nicely from the bomb... let em feel good headed into the next one

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Folty rookie year...
    86.2 ip 109 h 45 er 36 bb 92 k
    5.71 era
    1.63 whip

    Took him a minute and it'll take Newcomb a minute too
    What was Folty's BB/9 that year? What is Newk's this year?

    How much harder did Folty throw?

    How many more types of pitches did Folty throw?

    Are you still willing to suggest a 23 year old Folty and a 24 year old Newk are at all comparable?
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    9 K's is impressive, those walks man sigh.

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