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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    However good the White Sox system is, it doesn't take away from how good the Braves is in anyway.

    I don't understand why fans get insecure with this stuff.
    Right. Being the #1 farm system doesn't earn you ****. Another team that might or might not have a better system doesn't change who the Braves actually have in their system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipchildress View Post
    Is Gohara really that far behind Allard as a prospect? I find that hard to believe...
    I wouldn't put much stock into this list. I wouldn't rank Allard that high but it would put him in the high 50 FV range and he started the year as a mid 55 guy. So there is nothing really out of line with that. Gohara dropping at 98 is just a reflection of some scouting lagging behind on what he's doing. He was a low 55 FV prospect to start the year according Fangraphs and has done nothing but dominate this year. I'm not sure where I'd rank him but should be a mid 55 FV (top 50 overall) guy at minimum.

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    Ranking Eloy and Robles above Acuna is laughable.

    Eloy is a 21 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 30 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. Similar pop but Eloy is not a SB threat at all. Eloy has a lower K% (20% to Ronald's mid-20s%) but Ronald is two years younger and improving.

    Robles is a 20 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 15 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. He has less pop but has similar SB numbers. 18% K rate to Acuna's mid-20s%.

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    Gohara that low is laughable. Otherwise the other players are in the vicinity of where they should be.

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    Moncada is not the best prospect, IMO.

    I think Rosario, Acuna, Torres, Vladdy Jr., and Francisco Mejia are the 5 best.

    Eloy, Robles, and Devers are also better than Moncada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    Ranking Eloy and Robles above Acuna is laughable.

    Eloy is a 21 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 30 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. Similar pop but Eloy is not a SB threat at all. Eloy has a lower K% (20% to Ronald's mid-20s%) but Ronald is two years younger and improving.

    Robles is a 20 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 15 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. He has less pop but has similar SB numbers. 18% K rate to Acuna's mid-20s%.
    Yeah but you still don't rank based on results alone. Robles and Eloy have been doing this a bit longer so they should be ahead of Acuna. I don't think you can just make him the bestest based off of one year. I know he started to be special (sort of) last year. But his k% is real and he needs to sustain this for the remainder of the year to over take those guys. If his k% could drop closer to 20. Then I think you have the #1 prospect since some of the current big dogs will be graduated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    Moncada is not the best prospect, IMO.

    I think Rosario, Acuna, Torres, Vladdy Jr., and Francisco Mejia are the 5 best.

    Eloy, Robles, and Devers are also better than Moncada.
    Agreed. Monaca has way too much swing and miss in him for a 22 year old prospect. Red Sox did well to trade him when they did

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    Prediction: Most services have Acuna the #1 overall prospect in baseball in the offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    But the Sox have more FV 50+ in their Top 30.

    Have you looked at the new lists?
    The White Sox do not have better depth. I know we're just talking about this MLB ranking here, but you've admitted MLB sucks, which they do. The Braves clearly have better depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Prediction: Most services have Acuna the #1 overall prospect in baseball in the offseason.
    At the rate acuna is going I don't see how he isnt. Strikeout rate is dropping fast in AAA the last few games as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    All of these rankings have not fully caught up to what Gohara has been doing.
    That and I think there is a bias against his body type. Fatism runs rampant in sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Prediction: Most services have Acuna the #1 overall prospect in baseball in the offseason.
    Super prediction: Braves call him up for the playoff run and he loses his prospect ranking

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Super prediction: Braves call him up for the playoff run and he loses his prospect ranking
    Spectacular prediction: No.

    And even if they do, it probably wouldn't be early enough to lose his status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Spectacular prediction: No.

    And even if they do, it probably wouldn't be early enough to lose his status.
    Yes, I will take the no side of that one. I don't think he will be called up this season, but if he is called up at roster expansion, I think he will still have rookie status going into next year.

    I would lean towards the Braves breaking camp with him next spring though. I think it will dumb, but I think it is more likely than not at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Spectacular prediction: No.

    And even if they do, it probably wouldn't be early enough to lose his status.
    I would see him getting the Swanson treatment for a run at ROY next year if that did happen.

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    Keith Law just came out with mid season team farm rankings.

    1. Braves
    2. White Sox

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Keith Law just came out with mid season team farm rankings.

    1. Braves
    2. White Sox
    BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!

    Suck it, White Sux!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!

    Suck it, White Sux!!!
    Law is clearly a closet pozzi Barve

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    I will wait to see how Longenhagen ranks them.

    Of course, the White Sox may be a clear #1 if the Braves want to trade 1 or 2 of their top 10 prospects for Sonny Gray or the like in the next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitingFor2017 View Post
    I will wait to see how Longenhagan ranks them.

    Of course, the White Sox may be a clear #1 if the Braves want to trade 1 or 2 of their top 10 prospects for Sonny Gray or the like in the next week.
    This stuff changes constantly, which is why it doesn't really ever matter. Moncada will graduate off soon. Albies and/or Acuna could come off by the end of the year and certainly will by midseason next year. I mean, it's all for fans to read and talk about, which it's successful at doing. But it doesn't ever matter.

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