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    MLB.com updated top 100

    Acuna- 8
    Albies- 19
    Allard- 28
    Wright- 35
    Soroka- 38
    Maitan- 44
    Newk- 58
    Anderson- 57
    Gohara- 98

    More than the White Sox's better system.

    http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=prospects

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    Is Gohara really that far behind Allard as a prospect? I find that hard to believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipchildress View Post
    Is Gohara really that far behind Allard as a prospect? I find that hard to believe...
    All of these rankings have not fully caught up to what Gohara has been doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    All of these rankings have not fully caught up to what Gohara has been doing.
    That and I think there is a bias against his body type. Fatism runs rampant in sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipchildress View Post
    Is Gohara really that far behind Allard as a prospect? I find that hard to believe...
    I wouldn't put much stock into this list. I wouldn't rank Allard that high but it would put him in the high 50 FV range and he started the year as a mid 55 guy. So there is nothing really out of line with that. Gohara dropping at 98 is just a reflection of some scouting lagging behind on what he's doing. He was a low 55 FV prospect to start the year according Fangraphs and has done nothing but dominate this year. I'm not sure where I'd rank him but should be a mid 55 FV (top 50 overall) guy at minimum.

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    Ranking Eloy and Robles above Acuna is laughable.

    Eloy is a 21 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 30 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. Similar pop but Eloy is not a SB threat at all. Eloy has a lower K% (20% to Ronald's mid-20s%) but Ronald is two years younger and improving.

    Robles is a 20 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 15 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. He has less pop but has similar SB numbers. 18% K rate to Acuna's mid-20s%.

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    Moncada is not the best prospect, IMO.

    I think Rosario, Acuna, Torres, Vladdy Jr., and Francisco Mejia are the 5 best.

    Eloy, Robles, and Devers are also better than Moncada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    Ranking Eloy and Robles above Acuna is laughable.

    Eloy is a 21 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 30 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. Similar pop but Eloy is not a SB threat at all. Eloy has a lower K% (20% to Ronald's mid-20s%) but Ronald is two years younger and improving.

    Robles is a 20 year old in A+ ball. His wOBA is 15 points lower than Acuna's was at AA at 19. He has less pop but has similar SB numbers. 18% K rate to Acuna's mid-20s%.
    Yeah but you still don't rank based on results alone. Robles and Eloy have been doing this a bit longer so they should be ahead of Acuna. I don't think you can just make him the bestest based off of one year. I know he started to be special (sort of) last year. But his k% is real and he needs to sustain this for the remainder of the year to over take those guys. If his k% could drop closer to 20. Then I think you have the #1 prospect since some of the current big dogs will be graduated.
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    Prediction: Most services have Acuna the #1 overall prospect in baseball in the offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Prediction: Most services have Acuna the #1 overall prospect in baseball in the offseason.
    Super prediction: Braves call him up for the playoff run and he loses his prospect ranking

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Prediction: Most services have Acuna the #1 overall prospect in baseball in the offseason.
    This could be the case. In AAA he has been even more impressive than A or AA. Obvious small sample size, but his BB rate is back over 10%, his K rate is back down to 20%, and his BABIP is a much more reasonable .323...and it has produced a .940 OPS.

    If he finishes the year with ~200 PAs in AAA with his current BB/K rates and an .850+ OPS at 19 years old....I don't see any way he isn't #1.

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    Eight in the top 60

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    Why is Albies power rated a 30? Seems a bit low for a 20 year old who has .150 plus ISO at AAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugfan View Post
    Why is Albies power rated a 30? Seems a bit low for a 20 year old who has .150 plus ISO at AAA
    I don't think they've update any of the tools just the rankings.

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    Gohara is our best pitching prospect not named Soroka and maybe Wright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Gohara is our best pitching prospect not named Soroka and maybe Wright.
    he might be the best pitching prospect in the organization period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugfan View Post
    Why is Albies power rated a 30? Seems a bit low for a 20 year old who has .150 plus ISO at AAA
    8 home runs and 9 triples for Albies so far this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    All of these rankings have not fully caught up to what Gohara has been doing.
    Keith Law, who's substantially better than pipeline, has. I bet Eric at Fangraphs will
    Too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Acuna- 8
    Albies- 19
    Allard- 28
    Wright- 35
    Soroka- 38
    Maitan- 44
    Newk- 58
    Anderson- 57
    Gohara- 98

    More than the White Sox's better system.

    http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=prospects
    White Sox have

    1. Moncada (#1 2B)
    7. Eloy (#2 OF)
    12. Kopech (#1 RHP)
    26. Robert (#7 OF)
    45. Rutherford
    60. Lopez
    61. Giolito
    69. Cease

    Plus 9 more FV 50 guys.

    The Braves have an additional 5 more FV 50 guys.

    Both teams Top 30 consists of guys at least FV 45.

    To compare:

    Top 10: Sox win 2-1
    Top 25: Sox win 3-2
    Top 50: Braves win 6-5
    Top 100: Braves win 9-8
    Additional FV 50: Sox win 9 to 5

    I find it hard to support the notion that the Braves have the Sox beat either in star power (Top 10 or 25 guys), or depth (FV 50 guys) based on these rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    White Sox have

    1. Moncada (#1 2B)
    7. Eloy (#2 OF)
    12. Kopech (#1 RHP)
    26. Robert (#7 OF)
    45. Rutherford
    60. Lopez
    61. Giolito
    69. Cease

    Plus 9 more FV 50 guys.

    The Braves have an additional 5 more FV 50 guys.

    Both teams Top 30 consists of guys at least FV 45.

    To compare:

    Top 10: Sox win 2-1
    Top 25: Sox win 3-2
    Top 50: Braves win 6-5
    Top 100: Braves win 9-8
    Additional FV 50: Sox win 9 to 5

    I find it hard to support the notion that the Braves have the Sox beat either in star power (Top 10 or 25 guys), or depth (FV 50 guys) based on these rankings.
    In star power no but Moncada has been awful since coming up and someone like Giolito is hanging on by reputation. Lopez hasnt had a good year either.

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