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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Just lead off tonight's game with another Bomb!!
    First pitch of the game

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    Acuna the GOAT

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    I mean...what's this guy gonna be doing at 22?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    I mean...what's this guy gonna be doing at 22?????
    Hopefully not breaking his thumb and getting hit in the face

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveAKAslick View Post
    First pitch of the game
    He loves jumping on those. The triple to dead center last week was the first pitch as well, though it was the bottom of the 1st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Hopefully not breaking his thumb and getting hit in the face
    Not bad.

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    Did you guy see this on Reddit.. pretty cool imo.

    https://twitter.com/grantmcauley/sta...38912730791937
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    I know it's been answered somewhere, but if he's called up September 1st someone explain service time & Braves control

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveAKAslick View Post
    I know it's been answered somewhere, but if he's called up September 1st someone explain service time & Braves control
    If they call him up...

    Anytime in 2017 - They control him through 2023, after which he will become a FA before his age 26 season.
    Opening Day 2018 - They control him through 2023, after which he will become a FA before his age 26 season.
    2 Weeks into 2018 - They control him through 2024, after which he will become a FA before his age 27 season.

    The question becomes: What would the Braves rather have, 2 weeks of rookie Acuna at the beginning of 2018, or a full year of peak Acuna in 2024?

    The very next post in this thread will be someone suggesting the Braves will simply extend Acuna, but they will fail to understand that the cost of the 2024 season of that extension will be significantly more if they don't wait to promote him and control him via arb for that same year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If they call him up...

    Anytime in 2017 - They control him through 2023, after which he will become a FA before his age 26 season.
    Opening Day 2018 - They control him through 2023, after which he will become a FA before his age 26 season.
    2 Weeks into 2018 - They control him through 2024, after which he will become a FA before his age 27 season.

    The question becomes: What would the Braves rather have, 2 weeks of rookie Acuna at the beginning of 2018, or a full year of peak Acuna in 2024?

    The very next post in this thread will be someone suggesting the Braves will simply extend Acuna, but they will fail to understand that the cost of the 2024 season of that extension will be significantly more if they don't wait to promote him and control him via arb for that same year.
    Thanks man!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveAKAslick View Post
    Thanks man!! Some idiot on Twitter is posting everywhere on Braves Twitter saying September call ups don't effect service time and wanted to have it right before I commented...
    And I did a little copy and pasting there...I didn't credit my sources but figured you wouldn't mind...selfishly I wanna see him in Atlanta but it's really pointless, offers nothin but ticket sales at this point and of course that's DOB's thoughts...that would be the one reason why you shouldn't call him up

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveAKAslick View Post
    Thanks man!! Some idiot on Twitter is posting everywhere on Braves Twitter saying September call ups don't effect service time and wanted to have it right before I commented...
    A quick google search should get the guy all the info he needs

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roy...tember-callups

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/redlegn...vice-time/amp/

    Are the first 2 results explaining they acquire service time in September.

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    Need your opinion on this:


    The Angels extended Mike Trout prior to 2015.

    In extending him they bought out his Arb 1 season for 6 million, his Arb 2 season for 16 million, his Arb 3 for 20 million, and obtained three additional at 34 million.

    Was this smart?

    What was his expected arbitration figure for those years?

    (for the record, I see little reason to promote Acuna before May 2018).

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    They want to sell tickets in Sept and Apr...he'll be up...count on it.

    It's a double whammy, because he will win us a few more games this year.

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    Oh I see, another Trout comparison for Acuna.

    Let's try to estimate what it cost the Angels to call him up in Sept of his age 19 season rather than waiting until 2 weeks into his age 20 season...

    He is currently playing in what would have been his Arb 3 season for $20M. Next year, they will pay him $34M rather than paying him ~$22M for his Arb 4 year.

    So it will cost them $12M in 2018 to call up Trout when they did. Were those 200 PAs worth $12m? I doubt it.
    Last edited by Enscheff; 08-18-2017 at 09:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    I mean...what's this guy gonna be doing at 22?????
    Getting ready to hit FA and go to the yankees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Oh I see, another Trout comparison for Acuna.

    Let's try to estimate what it cost the Angels to call him up in Sept of his age 19 season rather than waiting until 2 weeks into his age 20 season...

    He is currently playing in what would have been his Arb 3 season for $20M. Next year, they will pay him $34M rather than paying him ~$22M for his Arb 4 year.

    So it will cost them $12M in 2018 to call up Trout when they did. Were those 200 PAs worth $12m? I doubt it.
    The lowest the Angels ranked in opening day payroll was 10th I believe. That was this past April as well. Since 07 they have consistently been one of the games highest team salary. I don't think spending money early for Trout makes any difference to an owner who clearly isn't afraid to spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Oh I see, another Trout comparison for Acuna.

    Let's try to estimate what it cost the Angels to call him up in Sept of his age 19 season rather than waiting until 2 weeks into his age 20 season...

    He is currently playing in what would have been his Arb 3 season for $20M. Next year, they will pay him $34M rather than paying him ~$22M for his Arb 4 year.

    So it will cost them $12M in 2018 to call up Trout when they did. Were those 200 PAs worth $12m? I doubt it.
    It really wasn't a comparison or about his early promotion.

    More about what he realistically would have made in arbitration.

    You sometimes have insight into things like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Oh I see, another Trout comparison for Acuna.

    Let's try to estimate what it cost the Angels to call him up in Sept of his age 19 season rather than waiting until 2 weeks into his age 20 season...

    He is currently playing in what would have been his Arb 3 season for $20M. Next year, they will pay him $34M rather than paying him ~$22M for his Arb 4 year.

    So it will cost them $12M in 2018 to call up Trout when they did. Were those 200 PAs worth $12m? I doubt it.
    $12M in value many years from now. whatever. call him up. the braves have sucked for years now. he'll get that super duper extended contract anyhow if he shows he's legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    It really wasn't a comparison or about his early promotion.

    More about what he realistically would have made in arbitration.

    You sometimes have insight into things like that.
    David Price set the record for Arb 4 salary in 2015 when he agreed to a $19.75M deal.

    Considering Trout is better, that $22M value I used previously seems about right...which is why I used it.
    Last edited by Enscheff; 08-18-2017 at 11:53 PM.

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