S-Rod traded to Pirates

[rico43]

Hearing now that Rodriguez was claimed by the Pirates when the Braves moved him through waivers. Braves immediately informed the Pirates that he was theirs, lock stock and $$$.

[Hawk]

So between the Garcia and Rodriguez trades the Braves have cleaned about $12.5MM in commitments off the books (~$7.5MM due this season).

[mfree80]

Hearing now that Rodriguez was claimed by the Pirates when the Braves moved him through waivers. Braves immediately informed the Pirates that he was theirs, lock stock and $$$.

So what does that mean for Joe? Would there even have to be a trade in that case?

[rico43]

He's also gotten ice cold rapidly

5-for-14 in August?

[jpx7]

You're going to have to leave Swanson in AAA at the start of next season. The kid is lost. He just needs a pressure free enviornment to take a breath and he will be back to a very good player for us in the future.

I agree. I'm still pretty doubtful Camargo is a full-time SS for a good major-league team, but I'm pretty convinced Swanson needs a hard re-set and a lot of lower-pressure PA to work himself out of this nadir. Letting him play out the string in AAA, then positioning Camargo to win a starting spot with Cobb County in 2018 (unless Swanson truly tears up September and spring, while Mr Marshland falls entirely on his face), is the best chance the team has, I think, to see what it's really got in each player.

[steveAKAslick]

5-for-14 in August?

.246/.269/.431 since the All-Star break as of August 2nd, I still think he profiles as a super utility guy long term which isn't a bad thing

[clvclv]

I agree. I'm still pretty doubtful Camargo is a full-time SS for a good major-league team, but I'm pretty convinced Swanson needs a hard re-set and a lot of lower-pressure PA to work himself out of this nadir. Letting him play out the string in AAA, then positioning Camargo to win a starting spot with Cobb County in 2018 (unless Swanson truly tears up September and spring, while Mr Marshland falls entirely on his face), is the best chance the team has, I think, to see what it's really got in each player.

The sad thing about the whole mess (JMO) is that if they'd have just let him play without all the fanfare of the commercials and bobbleheads, he'd probably have been just fine. He had the stretches this year where he was making solid adjustments and didn't look like he was overwhelmed. That's certainly a criticism the brass deserves - that they mishandled that part. If it weren't for all the other distractions, he may well have snapped out of it by now. Here's hoping they learned from it and just let the rest of them come up and prove themselves before marketing them so *amn hard. If you have to have more bobbleheads, have more Kemps, Freemans, Markakises, etc. - *ell, what about Flowers maybe? The park was going to sell itself this year without all that crap, and The Battery should help with it in the future as well.

[nsacpi]

So between the Garcia and Rodriguez trades the Braves have cleaned about $12.5MM in commitments off the books (~$7.5MM due this season).

apparently bonuses for the front office the past three years were pretty skimpy due to failure to make budget...they want to avoid a fourpeat

[thethe]

apparently bonuses for the front office the past three years were pretty skimpy due to failure to make budget...they want to avoid a fourpeat

You haven't heard about all the regulatory cuts....bonuses for all!

[nsacpi]

You haven't heard about all the regulatory cuts....bonuses for all!

good luck with that bro

[zbhargrove]

I agree that he's going to fall to earth, but he's cooled off and still outhitting Swanson's AAA line.

I still think Camargo is a better long term option than Swanson. Trade Swanson while he still has value.

[zbhargrove]

5-for-14 in August?

14 at bats? Look at his stats since the break. Not very good.

[nsacpi]

I still think Camargo is a better long term option than Swanson. Trade Swanson while he still has value.

I think it is very much an open question.

[Southcack77]

I still think Camargo is a better long term option than Swanson. Trade Swanson while he still has value.

If someone still values Swanson highly enough to take him as major piece in deal for something the Braves need, I'd consider it.

Otherwise you try and get him on track or at worst keep him as a cheap utility guy.

[Knucksie]

Funny how every first page of every transaction thread begins with posts blasting the FO. Then turn around and read comments in this thread. Regular contributors have no better long term plan or solution other than to trade the latest whipping boy.

[smootness]

I still think Camargo is a better long term option than Swanson. Trade Swanson while he still has value.

You serious, Clark?

[zbhargrove]

You serious, Clark?

Have you watched the players, Clark? Sadly, I just don't think Swanson is that good. I know that's hard to swallow considering he was our #1 prospect, but they all simply do not work out.

[nsacpi]

You serious, Clark?

It is at least an open question

[rico43]

The sad thing about the whole mess (JMO) is that if they'd have just let him play without all the fanfare of the commercials and bobbleheads, he'd probably have been just fine. He had the stretches this year where he was making solid adjustments and didn't look like he was overwhelmed. That's certainly a criticism the brass deserves - that they mishandled that part. If it weren't for all the other distractions, he may well have snapped out of it by now. Here's hoping they learned from it and just let the rest of them come up and prove themselves before marketing them so *amn hard. If you have to have more bobbleheads, have more Kemps, Freemans, Markakises, etc. - *ell, what about Flowers maybe? The park was going to sell itself this year without all that crap, and The Battery should help with it in the future as well.

My unpopular thought is Swanson needs to shed his cocoon helmet and stick his nose back in there. Francoeur and Stanton both had injuries as bad, if not worse, and were able to resume their business at the plate.

[rico43]

It is at least an open question

That last play also restates the case that he is as good or better a shortstop.