S-Rod traded to Pirates

[nsacpi]

You may be right, but I don't think we can say that just based on this year. Like his hitting, I think the bobbles and drops this year were more of a between the ears problem than one of physical skill.

Maybe. He never looked totally relaxed and confident out there.

[Enscheff]

Agreed it's irrelevant to that discussion. I was just saying in general.

Thanks for bringing it up then.

[GeorgiaGirl]

I'll put it as simple as this:

If you think Swanson is one of the biggest busts in a while of this organization, you better be looking for options at SS this offseason, because Camargo sure as heck is not a long term starter at SS for a good team.

No, the sample size ain't big enough with Camargo. He's a case, just like Inciarte in which you need a BIG sample size before you can say "This is who he is". Not just around 200 ABs, a full year.

[Chico]

Has anything been said as to where he wll play? Are we going to convert him back to cacther? We have enough left field/1B types with not enough pop.

[nsacpi]

I'll put it as simple as this:

If you think Swanson is one of the biggest busts in a while of this organization, you better be looking for options at SS this offseason, because Camargo sure as heck is not a long term starter at SS for a good team.

No, the sample size ain't big enough with Camargo. He's a case, just like Inciarte in which you need a BIG sample size before you can say "This is who he is". Not just around 200 ABs, a full year.

I'm ok for next year mixing and matching at short (Camargo, Swanson) and third (Camargo, Swanson, Santana, Freeman with Adams at first). It should allow us to accumulate the kind of sample needed to draw some conclusions about Camargo and Swanson. I agree it is too early to say Swanson is a bust or Camargo is the solution.

[Hawk]

What about sending Swanson to a Winter League?

[GeorgiaGirl]

Doubt winter league does any good with Swanson. He needs to revamp his swing as there is a flaw in it and spend at least two months in the offseason with pitchers with sliders, purely practicing against that.

Mike Foltynewicz can be one of them.

[bravesfanMatt]

Has anything been said as to where he wll play? Are we going to convert him back to cacther? We have enough left field/1B types with not enough pop.

Really doesn't matter. He will be sent to AA or A+ and be platooned until we cut him or he shows us something. He is just a name attached to a salary dump trade.

[Southcack77]

How much range difference are we talking about between the braves organization defensive player of the year and Swanson.

Is it much less a marginal difference than arm strength?

[Chico]

I'll put it as simple as this:

If you think Swanson is one of the biggest busts in a while of this organization, you better be looking for options at SS this offseason, because Camargo sure as heck is not a long term starter at SS for a good team.

No, the sample size ain't big enough with Camargo. He's a case, just like Inciarte in which you need a BIG sample size before you can say "This is who he is". Not just around 200 ABs, a full year.

I agree Camargo is not the answer, but if we're training him in to being a super utility guy and letting him get some reps at shortstop when we're out of it, that's ok with me. Everything we're doing right now is to setup the offseason.

I do not think the front office views Swanson as anything but a staple of the franchise. I like the fact they called him up early. Life and baseball are all about making adjustments and the sooner you do that the better off you are. Usually you have to struggle for that to happen.

I don't think it's by accident we have no depth in the minors at 1B or SS. Dansby will be here a while just like Freeman.

[SJ24]

Doubt winter league does any good with Swanson. He needs to revamp his swing as there is a flaw in it and spend at least two months in the offseason with pitchers with sliders, purely practicing against that.

Mike Foltynewicz can be one of them.

What is the flaw in Dansby's swing? I'm not doubting you- just curious as I want to learn.

[Chico]

Really doesn't matter. He will be sent to AA or A+ and be platooned until we cut him or he shows us something. He is just a name attached to a salary dump trade.

I completely disagree. I look at it like flipping a house. You made an investment, so you work on it to approve the appeal and flip it.

Yes, of course everyone knows it's a salary dump

[GeorgiaGirl]

What is the flaw in Dansby's swing? I'm not doubting you- just curious as I want to learn.

I can't explain it sadly but its something that I've read about. If I tried I'd just say a bunch of things, let's just say because of this flaw it's a miracle he hit any home runs at all.

[Southcack77]

I completely disagree. I look at it like flipping a house. You made an investment, so you work on it to approve the appeal and flip it.

Yes, of course everyone knows it's a salary dump

He'll be rule 5 eligible this year but I do not guess he is that likely to be picked

[Knucksie]

If you think Swanson is one of the biggest busts in a while of this organization, you better be looking for options at SS this offseason, because Camargo sure as heck is not a long term starter at SS for a good team.

It's not that as much as that there are more than a few Chicken Littles posting here.

[Tapate50]

I'll put it as simple as this:

If you think Swanson is one of the biggest busts in a while of this organization, you better be looking for options at SS this offseason, because Camargo sure as heck is not a long term starter at SS for a good team.

No, the sample size ain't big enough with Camargo. He's a case, just like Inciarte in which you need a BIG sample size before you can say "This is who he is". Not just around 200 ABs, a full year.

We are over 300 and counting on Camargo. I'm a believer, just not quite at this level of production.

[msstate7]

We are over 300 and counting on Camargo. I'm a believer, just not quite at this level of production.

Camargo has 182 ABs for Atlanta

[jpx7]

Camargo has 182 ABs for Atlanta

And only 197 PA. Still need more data on him at MLB.

[Tapate50]

Camargo has 182 ABs for Atlanta

He was hitting .311 at Gwinnett. He has been on a notable uptick at the plate all season. Way up from his norms. And it's mostly been in the power dept.

[UNCBlue012]

A-Rod just hit a walk-off homer for the Pirates. Lmao