Analyzing Fried's stuff

[Enscheff]

Fried threw enough FAs and CUs last night that we can take a look at how good those 2 pitches are.

FA: 93.3 MPH, 3.7x, 6.4z

This pitch is classied as 4 seamer, but has below average rise and below average horizontal movement. It has above average velo by about 1 MPH, but we can't be certain how much extra velocity he got due to coming out of the BP. As a SP, this is likely average velo with below average movement...a 45-50 pitch.

CU: 74.6 MPH, -4.6x, -9.7z

This is a good pitch, and likely even better than Newk's. If you think Newk's is a good downer, Fried's is even better. I would hang a 65 on this pitch easily.

He threw 1 CH with good velo delta from his FA, and what appears to be good movement. It's common for guys to ditch the CH coming out of the BP, so we can't say much about this pitch or how often he uses it yet.

In Fried the Braves have a LHer with a useable FA, and a very good CU. I would like to see him get a few starts so we can judge the CH.

[sturg33]

Fried threw enough FAs and CUs last night that we can take a look at how good those 2 pitches are.

FA: 93.3 MPH, 3.7x, 6.4z

This pitch is classied as 4 seamer, but has below average rise and below average horizontal movement. It has above average velo by about 1 MPH, but we can't be certain how much extra velocity he got due to coming out of the BP. As a SP, this is likely average velo with below average movement...a 45-50 pitch.

CU: 74.6 MPH, -4.6x, -9.7z

This is a good pitch, and likely even better than Newk's. If you think Newk's is a good downer, Fried's is even better. I would hang a 65 on this pitch easily.

He threw 1 CH with good velo delta from his FA, and what appears to be good movement. It's common for guys to ditch the CH coming out of the BP, so we can't say much about this pitch or how often he uses it yet.

In Fried the Braves have a LHer with a useable FA, and a very good CU. I would like to see him get a few starts so we can judge the CH.

No kidding...

but the John's feel it more appropriate to get him mop-up work once a week.

[cajunrevenge]

He has had blister problems. I think they are putting him on a limited pitch count to hopefully keep the blister away. He was only going about 3 innings in his starts at AA before the callup. They probably think he will develop faster getting those 2-3 innings in the majors. Given his age and injury history I could see this callup as a reward for hard work. I think they will give him a shot to win a rotation spot next year and this is preparation for that. Might have to shut him down by August to limit his innings but we should have a lot of options this time next year to replace him.



Anyways, I like the data. Dissapointed by his FB but I think the velocity might get better if used a a traditional 1 inning reliever.

[Preacher]

No kidding...

but the John's feel it more appropriate to get him mop-up work once a week.

Meh, I really don't get the angst over this one, they want to challenge him against high level hitters while also keeping his innings down. They've already said they he will go back to starting next year.

[Preacher]

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[Chico]

Meh, I really don't get the angst over this one, they want to challenge him against high level hitters while also keeping his innings down. They've already said they he will go back to starting next year.

I don't either...But I've realized most people who come to message boards are here to complain about something. It's some odd default setting people have

[striker42]

It wouldn't surprise me if Fried was overthrowing last night. Might mean a little drop in velo but better movement on the fastball in the future.

[atl717]

I just want a prospect whose stuff makes me say wow. Haven't seen it yet. Hoping Gohara is the guy.

[thethe]

I just want a prospect whose stuff makes me say wow. Haven't seen it yet. Hoping Gohara is the guy.

Folty?

[mfree80]

I just want a prospect whose stuff makes me say wow. Haven't seen it yet. Hoping Gohara is the guy.

Newk's curve?

[atl717]

Folty?

I'm referring to the new wave. But his stuff is pretty damn good and the breaking stuff is improving.

Newk's curve is very good but if his command doesn't improve he's a reliever.

[rico43]

Relating to the blister issue, more than one player who has been both in the majors and minors are saying that the MLB baseball is different this year, more so than normal. It might be a case where Fried needs to get used to the difference.

[Enscheff]

Newk's curve?

Fried's curve is the best we've seen in Atlanta in quite some time. If that pitch doesn't impress you, I don't know what will.

I am genuinely excited to see Touki throw 10 curves in front of a statcast radar.

[Enscheff]

I'm referring to the new wave. But his stuff is pretty damn good and the breaking stuff is improving.

Newk's curve is very good but if his command doesn't improve he's a reliever.

Folty's heater and Fried's curve are currently the best pitches on the Braves roster, in my opinion.

[zbhargrove]

Fried's curve is the best we've seen in Atlanta in quite some time. If that pitch doesn't impress you, I don't know what will.

I am genuinely excited to see Touki throw 10 curves in front of a statcast radar.

Yeah if Fried can get that curve controlled consistently and the change up developed... he could get interesting. That curve was just filthy.

[Bravesfannchar]

Great stuff, Enscheff! Very interesting numbers.

What do Sims' FA / CU / CH look like in comparison?

[Enscheff]

Great stuff, Enscheff! Very interesting numbers.

What do Sims' FA / CU / CH look like in comparison?

I made a similar post on Sims here:

http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7186

His stuff was a bit worse his 2nd start. I don't think his repertoire will work in an MLB rotation.

[bravesfanMatt]

I made a similar post on Sims here:

http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7186

His stuff was a bit worse his 2nd start. I don't think his repertoire will work in an MLB rotation.

Unless he improves his off speed stuff, he is destined for the pen.

[Enscheff]

Unless he improves his off speed stuff, he is destined for the pen.

He needs to improve everything to be a SP.

It's highly unlikely.

[Pugfan]

I think he'll end up being a good reliever. Don't think his
Overall stuff and command will be enough to be a decent starter. His fastball will probably only sit in the 90-92 range as a starter. Doesn't seem to have great movement on it either. His curve is very impressive and it probably is a 60-65.