Voter Purge

[57Brave]

"I didn't go vote because I know about the voter ID law. But I didn't know my ID would work because I don't know about the voter ID law."

I'm sorry, but I just don't find that to be a credible response.

But even assuming that a few people actually fall into the above scenario, how hard it is to find out? Google it. If you don't have internet service, call your Secretary of State's office, the county election commission, or any party office in the state. If you don't have phone service, drive to your library and look it up, or go to the country elections office. And if you can't do any of those things, how likely were you to vote?

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[Julio3000]

So how do you, Jaw, and you, thethe, feel about the spate of federal court rulings indicating that the purpose various state voter i.d. laws was explicitly to keep a certain class of voter from voting?

Personally, I think that voting should be as easy as falling off a log. There should be a massive and bipartisan effort to ensure maximum civic participation in this most basic of rights. Why isn't there?

[thethe]

So how do you, Jaw, and you, thethe, feel about the spate of federal court rulings indicating that the purpose various state voter i.d. laws was explicitly to keep a certain class of voter from voting?

Personally, I think that voting should be as easy as falling off a log. There should be a massive and bipartisan effort to ensure maximum civic participation in this most basic of rights. Why isn't there?

By making it easy how do you ensure only Americans are voting?

[jpx7]

By making it easy how do you ensure only Americans are voting?

It's a statistically insignificant issue.

[Julio3000]

By making it easy how do you ensure only Americans are voting?

So burn your house with your family in it because you think you might have termites.

[57Brave]

The study, which was funded by Dane County Clerk Scott McDonell, provides some of the firmest evidence yet that new restrictions on voting lead to voter disenfranchisement. It’s a strong rebuke to supporters of voter ID laws like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who has claimed that the notion the voter ID law reduced participation is a “load of crap.” (Wisconsin saw its lowest turnout since 2000, and there were 41,000 fewer voters in Milwaukee compared with 2012.)

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The new study also suggests that the number of voters disenfranchised by the law is far greater than the number of fraud cases that it was designed to stop. In 2014, during a federal trial where Wisconsin failed to present a single case of voter impersonation that the law would have prevented, a federal judge found that 300,000 voters lacked the strict forms of ID required by the state.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...sin-last-year/

[thethe]

It's a statistically insignificant issue.

You advertise that you are making voting as easy as possible without ID then the 11M + (Who really knows how much it is) illegals will vote to get their entitlements.

And thats the real story. Make it so that illegals can vote which was already instituted in one location in America.

[57Brave]

That is not true
..............

If like you say it is "the real story"

Prove it.
Show the data

[thethe]

That is not true
..............

If like you say it is "the real story"

Prove it.
Show the data

Why wouldn't an illegal vote if you let them?

[57Brave]

You really do live under a bed, don't you ?

You have a solution looking for a problem.

[thethe]

You really do live under a bed, don't you ?

You have a solution looking for a problem.

Great dodge to the question. We all know what the lefts agenda is. Get illegals to vote so you can win some elections.

[57Brave]

Guess it wasn't that great a dodge because you snuffed it right out.
Guilty

At the "left agenda" meeting this weekend after cookies and coffee we discussed just that!
How we can ship displaced Puerto Ricans into the US to vote (D)
We have nixed the idea of Central Americans because of the impenetrable invisible wall
So later when we (the liberals) went for beer nd pizza we came to the realization that just as humans bear no responsibility for climate change there are in fact millions of illegals voting
All data is fixed.

you are putting me on, right ?

[57Brave]

The issue of Voter Fraud is just that.

[Jaw]

So how do you, Jaw, and you, thethe, feel about the spate of federal court rulings indicating that the purpose various state voter i.d. laws was explicitly to keep a certain class of voter from voting?

Personally, I think that voting should be as easy as falling off a log. There should be a massive and bipartisan effort to ensure maximum civic participation in this most basic of rights. Why isn't there?

Off the top of my head:

I would allow registration on any business day of the year to make it as easy as possible to register.

At registration I would provide a voter registration card detailing the polling locations and next scheduled election, along with acceptable forms of ID that will be required at the poll and a toll free number and website to turn to with any questions.

Each registration would be valid for something like 49 months after the last election the voter participated in. This would allow voters that only vote for Presidential elections to only register once, unless they move.

I would use paper ballots in every election to guarantee that the vote count was not manipulated by outside sources.

I would not allow 3rd party registration so that no one untrained is flooding the system with fake or quota driven voter registrations.

I would make a state ID card, valid for 10 years, available without cost to every eligible voter through the DMV.

Now that was on the fly and thinking it out while I typed, so maybe there are a couple of holes, but this really doesn't seem that hard guys. The bonus is that most of this stuff is already in place in some states.

[57Brave]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/03/u...cial-bias.html

[Jaw]

This is stunning. In all sincerity, people complaining about voting hurdles should lead with this:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oting-poll-tax

[Too poor to vote: how Alabama’s ‘new poll tax’ bars thousands of people from voting

in Alabama and eight other states from Nevada to Tennessee, anyone who has lost the franchise cannot regain it until they pay off any outstanding court fines, legal fees and victim restitution.
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In 1964, the 24th amendment abolished the poll tax, but to this day in Alabama, money keeps thousands of people away from the ballot box. According to the Sentencing Project, a Washington DC-based criminal justice reform non-profit, there are 286,266 disenfranchised felons in Alabama, or 7.62% of the state’s voting-age population.

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More than half of those disenfranchised felons are black, despite the fact that African Americans made up only 26.8% of the state’s population as of July 2016, according to a US census estimate.

A new state law has cleared the way for people convicted of certain felonies to eventually regain the right to vote. But before that can happen, anyone who has lost the franchise in Alabama for any reason must first fulfill any financial obligations to the state and to their victims, according to the Alabama secretary of state, John Merrill.

[sturg33]

Just to be clear we are not concerned about dumb asses in Alabama

[chop2chip]

It's a statistically insignificant issue.

Until it isn't.

Case in point, local elections.

[57Brave]

Just to be clear we are not concerned about dumb asses in Alabama

ah
"we"

of course you're not.
Because the next thing you know they will vote out right to work legislators and unions will rise.
Koch Industries hates unions

why?

Because of stuff like livable wage and reasonable leave policies and worse case?
Women being paid and advanced comparable to men

[57Brave]

and let's be clear one more time.

Paddock in Las Vegas shot and killed almost (if not now) twice as many people in an hour than recorded voter fraud instances since 2000
Just to be clear