Dont feel sorry for Cliff. He chose to take 25 million a year to play for a ****ty team. Even if they werent ****ty when he signed they were in obvious decline. If he really wanted to win he could have signed for half that with a better team. Not hating on him for taking the money but he signed up for this.
It would be nice of Edwin Jackson to pitch well tomorrow, and for Wainwright to drop a dud.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Such a shame. Guy isn't quite a HOF pitcher yet but another year or 2 of high play and he would have been in, but now hes more of a bubble guy. Like Pettitte but Halladay isn't a Yankee and doesn't have a fistful of rings.Originally Posted by KeithLockhart
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Lee took a discount to sign with Philly. Texas and NYY offered more money. Sometimes money isn't everything. Apparently he and his family liked the area.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Fredi pretty much confirming Reed is going to be on the bench during the playoffs during his post-game PC.
Does this mean Schafer is odd man out?
BJ is probably a given, Elliot is Fredi's new toy. Uggla's on the bench as well.
Forever Fredi
Also, I wish Minor would learn a thing or two from Medlen on pitching efficiency and pitching to contact.
They're essentially the same pitcher from different sides of the rubber. Minor can hit maybe a mph more than Medlen on the fastball, but both are Fastball-Changeup and occasional curveball guys.
Forever Fredi
Can we extend Medlen please?
Natural Immunity Croc
We control him until 2016 I think. If he proves next year he can do it a full season, instead of just dominating down the stretch, I say give the kid his due.
Forever Fredi
Have to be proactive. He will cost 50-75% more if he has another good season.
Natural Immunity Croc
It will be interesting what the bench is.
Depends if Mac is out for the playoffs or not.
I could see Uggla left off but you're probably right.
Was gonna say the same, his value isn't as big as it could be this time next year.
If he repeats this, he may command ace money.
Because of his lack of run support early in the year, Medlen could easily be 19-8 instead of 15-12.
Forever Fredi
I don't think people realize that this is the 2012 Medlen all over again. He has been unhittable for quite some time now.
Natural Immunity Croc
As much as I don't want Schafer starting in CF, I also don't want to see Janish beat him out for a spot on the bench. That's crazy. Schafer has quite a bit of value defensively and on the bases. Could easily see him running for McCann in the 9th and stealing a run.
In a close game with the lead, you could theoretically have Janish-Simmons-Elliot as your infield. Could sub for Uggla or CJ whichever.
Schafer's biggest value is probably on the bases.
If Reed is on the team, Schafer is out. Reed is essentially the 5th OF. He may not be as fast as Schafe but could pinch run. The thing is, I don't trust Gattis or Laird defensively over McCann late in the game enough to want to pinch run for McCann.
I only see us pinch running for McCann if we're behind and McCann is on 2nd.
Forever Fredi
The debate about having Schafer on the roster is interesting. I had not considered removing him till reading this discussion. Schafer has been bad at the plate the second half. Plus BJ Upton can pinch run and steal if needed. So can EJ if he's not starting. This being the case it makes Schafer not needed really unless he's hitting. We already know Heyward will be starting in centerfield if he's good to go.
To sum it up, I could certainly see a case for leaving him off the roster. I just doubt Fredi does so regardless.
So I just read Mac will miss the final two games of season (possible to pinch hit Sunday though). That hurts our chances to sweep, but I understand we cannot take any chances with Mac.
Looks like Laird's tactics have worked. He probably got a cheap shot in on Mac during the scuffle against Milwaukee the other day.
Forever Fredi
BoneThrower (09-28-2013), NYCBrave (09-28-2013)
So they kicked him out of the game to protect Mac?
The Chosen One (09-27-2013)
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