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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    And how's that effort to compete too early working out? 68 wins last year, likely less than 75 wins this year, and the emergence of zero solid long term answers for the rotation, the BP, or any other position on the field.

    They should have brought Swanson up sometime in the middle of this season, Albies sometime in the middle of 2018, and Acuna up in the middle of 2019.

    Instead, we get this...a team that still sucks despite wasting years of control over their most valuable assets. All because they are trying to push the window of contention too fast. And we won't even mention how badly the other "win soon" moves have turned out.

    Barves Way!! Must blindly defend their moves!!
    You should throw a temper tantrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    I don't think the front office is necessarily convinced this team is close to competing. (they clearly aren't close) I think this could stem from ownership wanting to sell more tickets by promoting these "stud" and exciting kids that fans want to see on the field.

    I am by no means defending the clowns that make up this front office either.
    I agree..Selling tickets is part of it. This is an entertainment business after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    And how's that effort to compete too early working out? 68 wins last year, likely less than 75 wins this year, and the emergence of zero solid long term answers for the rotation, the BP, or any other position on the field.

    They should have brought Swanson up sometime in the middle of this season, Albies sometime in the middle of 2018, and Acuna up in the middle of 2019.

    Instead, we get this...a team that still sucks despite wasting years of control over their most valuable assets. All because they are trying to push the window of contention too fast. And we won't even mention how badly the other "win soon" moves have turned out.

    Barves Way!! Must blindly defend their moves!!
    You can't be more than 14 years old

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You should throw a temper tantrum.
    You should keep your head in the sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    You can't be more than 14 years old
    Haha, now the personal insults begin. Make note of when it started. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You should throw a temper tantrum.
    Do you quantitative data to prove this? There isn't any room for your thoughts or opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    He is ready. What kind of dumb statement is this?
    Is he though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    You should keep your head in the sand.
    All I did was say the reasoning behind bringing up Albies. Didn't say I support it or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You should throw a temper tantrum.
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    IMHO, the first promotion with Acuna was mainly to get him away from the very pitcher friendly Florida State League. I'm sure they didn't think he'd absolutely explode in the Southern League, but he did.

    As for Albies, I think I'll give him lots of time. The only full season league he really got off and running at was the Southern League. While he posted really good numbers at Rome, what's hidden is a slow start in April. Can't remember exactly how much, but it was at least two weeks. (.616 OPS for the first 13 games...nothing earth shattering and then he just absolutely destroyed it until he got hurt later in the year)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    IMHO, the first promotion with Acuna was mainly to get him away from the very pitcher friendly Florida State League. I'm sure they didn't think he'd absolutely explode in the Southern League, but he did.

    As for Albies, I think I'll give him lots of time. The only full season league he really got off and running at was the Southern League. While he posted really good numbers at Rome, what's hidden is a slow start in April. Can't remember exactly how much, but it was at least two weeks. (.616 OPS for the first 13 games...nothing earth shattering and then he just absolutely destroyed it until he got hurt later in the year)
    Albies will probably be fine...as soon as he stops hitting the ball in the air over half the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Albies will probably be fine...as soon as he stops hitting the ball in the air over half the time.
    Which will probably be very soon since he's never shown %s close to this in the minors, and this is an extremely small sample.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Which will probably be very soon since he's never shown %s close to this in the minors, and this is an extremely small sample.
    Line drives are in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Which will probably be very soon since he's never shown %s close to this in the minors, and this is an extremely small sample.
    FB rates stabilize at about 80 BIP. He is almost halfway there.

    But I agree, there's no way he continues to hit this many FBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    A little patience is in order here my friends.
    Right. Guys don't show up in the big leagues fully optimized. It still takes some time to figure things out. That's why all these complaints about "starting the service clock prematurely" are off base.

    Guys need time to adjust to the big leagues. They aren't data, they're athletes with emotions and intelligence and muscle memories and all sorts of variables that enter into the equation.

    Be data-informed, not data-driven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovClintonTyree View Post
    Right. Guys don't show up in the big leagues fully optimized. It still takes some time to figure things out. That's why all these complaints about "starting the service clock prematurely" are off base.

    Guys need time to adjust to the big leagues. They aren't data, they're athletes with emotions and intelligence and muscle memories and all sorts of variables that enter into the equation.

    Be data-informed, not data-driven.
    Ahh, yes, the good old "players need time to figure things out" argument.

    I don't see how it's logical to allow a 22 year old to "figure things out" and forfeit his age 29 peak season rather than letting a 23 year old "figure things out" and keeping him for his age 29 peak season.

    I suppose the next tidbit of wisdom will be that players "figure things out" better at age 22 than at age 23? Or some other bit of pseudo-logic?

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    We need to start a worthless analysis based on extremely small sample sizes so I don't bother to open. This is slightly more beneficial than analyzing week old fielding data.
    "Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Albies will probably be fine...as soon as he stops hitting the ball in the air over half the time.
    You see I don't think it's as simple as that because of the approach change he made...which in retrospective probably should've waited until he hit MLB. When I see him get a two strike hit like he did against St Louis, I know his ability to just swing for hits is still there but he's not trying for just hits all of the time, just when he's behind. When he's not behind he's swinging for power, every time.

    That dance between going for power and just going for base hits can...and really should have waited until after he hit the major leagues. But again, it seems like the Braves try to shove down young player's throats their idea of what you should be. If you're not a center fielder or shortstop, you must hit for power or we don't like you. And they love physical specimens more at 2B than just being who you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    We need to start a worthless analysis based on extremely small sample sizes so I don't bother to open. This is slightly more beneficial than analyzing week old fielding data.
    And yet here you are...

    Contributing nothing of substance...

    As usual...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    And yet here you are...
    I didn't realize it was simply based on the majors or in other words less than half of what is needed to perform any meaningful analysis.
    "Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe

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