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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    deal in absolutes much ?
    Please proceed, governor

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    Here's one assessment of antifa that I think provides an accurate summary of what they are about.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...antifa/537048/

    The article has a link to another article, "The Rise of the Violent Left", which is also worth reading.
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    "But for all of antifa’s supposed anti-authoritarianism, there’s something fundamentally authoritarian about its claim that its activists—who no one elected—can decide whose views are too odious to be publicly expressed."

    ^^ From article linked in post above

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    "But for all of antifa’s supposed anti-authoritarianism, there’s something fundamentally authoritarian about its claim that its activists—who no one elected—can decide whose views are too odious to be publicly expressed."

    ^^ From article linked in post above
    yup...the article is well worth reading...i have some familiarity with the violent left from my time in berkeley and oakland...i even know a couple of them personally
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Yeah, but see... they're not pro-civil liberties because they don't believe in free speech
    So by telling people they don't like what someone else is saying they don't like free speech? Stop reading infowars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    So by telling people they don't like what someone else is saying they don't like free speech? Stop reading infowars.
    No... nice try. By demanding that people not be allowed to speak, means they don't support free speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    No... nice try. By demanding that people not be allowed to speak, means they don't support free speech
    I think that sounds like the free market speaking to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I think that sounds like the free market speaking to me.
    Unsurprisingly, you have no idea what the free market is, if that's what you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Unsurprisingly, you have no idea what the free market is, if that's what you think


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    loudest =/= majority

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    First it's the slave owners. Eventually they will come for things honoring a person who was against abortion or gay marriage. Just a matter of time before some Asian sjw claims something honoring FDR is oppressing them because of Japanese internment. Slippery slope.
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    I really don't see how anyone who is against all symbols of the confederacy could also support any monument to FDR...

    but you know... double standards and all

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think the word we like to use for these guys "activists" right?
    Peaceful protesters, lawfully exercising their right to civilly demonstrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I really don't see how anyone who is against all symbols of the confederacy could also support any monument to FDR...

    but you know... double standards and all
    Yale University put together a commission to study the issue of the renaming of campus buildings, etc. If you were to read their findings, you might find that it illuminates some of the pricklier issues that you apparently find too difficult to wrangle with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Yale University put together a commission to study the issue of the renaming of campus buildings, etc. If you were to read their findings, you might find that it illuminates some of the pricklier issues that you apparently find too difficult to wrangle with.
    Not sure what you mean. I'm not one crying for monument removal.

    But if you are, let's be consistent for once

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    Is "the left" mockable snowflakes that need safe places or antifa ?

    The only language Farkus understood was Ralphie bloodying his nose
    Witness the whining about how the opponents of the bigots fought back
    Is it safe to assume :the left: has learned candlelight vigil's run by clergy get no respect from Nazi's ? And non violent protest os a relic of a bygone era



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    Comment NYT this morning


    H. Clark Long Island, NY 1 hour ago

    Allowing Nazi sympathizers and White Supremacists to march unopposed is anathema to many. So is countering violence with violence. Therein lies the angst of our current national conundrum: Either way, it breeds contempt and feels like a lose-lose situation. This is where compassionate leadership needs to take a prominent role. Unfortunately, it is in short supply in America today.

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    Perhaps antifa has grown in a vacuum?
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    On this day in 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson notifies Alabama's Governor George Wallace that he will use federal authority to call up the Alabama National Guard in order to supervise a planned civil rights march from Selma to Montgomery.

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    The fact that 57 et al doesn't condemn antifa is just as disturbing as the supposed people on the right "defending nazis" (with not a single example of that happening, by the way)

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    except antifa is not calling for the extermination of Jews,Blacks ,Catholics etc/
    Just want to tear down some erections of some lost cause or other
    You can't or won't make that distinction

    I don't like the fact they get violent however I don't like the idea of Cornell West getting his head bashed in either.
    The goal of Dylan Roof was and he said this, to start the race war.
    Please read above where yes MLK lead a non violent movement -- but also read when things got dicey - the National Guard was called in to protect those non violent protesters.
    Do you think for one moment Trump would have mobilized the NG had things gotten more out of hand last week ?

    You know that and keep typing nonsense for the sake of arguing.
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