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    I was talking about how every Braves pitching prospect is touted as throwing mid/upper 90s, and then averages 91-93 when they debut for the Braves.

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    Dansby has been very good since coming up both offensively and defensively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I was talking about how every Braves pitching prospect is touted as throwing mid/upper 90s, and then averages 91-93 when they debut for the Braves.
    Come on man...Newk was throwing 102 in one of his starts this year :)
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    Dansby is giving the braves some outstanding ABs

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Dansby is giving the braves some outstanding ABs
    Johan is better though....look at his throwing arm

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Johan is better though....look at his throwing arm
    I think Dansby needed a short vacation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Johan is better though....look at his throwing arm
    Somehow I think camargo will be back at SS unless the johns make snit play dansby

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Indeed. But if you can't locate at all the better velocity matters.
    This is a very interesting topic, analyzed here: http://www.hardballtimes.com/the-rel...e-of-velocity/

    If you don't want to read the whole thing, here a summary...

    Fastballs - location is 2x-3x more important than velocity, but velocity is 1.5x-2x more important than movement. However, you can't teach velocity, just like you can't teach raw power or make a basketball player taller.

    Curves - importance ranks velo, vertical movement, location, then horizontal movement.

    Sliders - importance ranks location (down), horizontal movement (away) and velo last.

    Change - keeping it down is by far the most
    Important aspect covered in this analysis, but common sense tells us the velo delta must approach 8-10 MPH, and the delivery must match the delivery of the FA.

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    Its going to be sooooo frustrating watching Newk the next 2+ years. He's really tip toeing at an inflection point of being a terrible starter or a TOR pitcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    This is a very interesting topic, analyzed here: http://www.hardballtimes.com/the-rel...e-of-velocity/

    If you don't want to read the whole thing, here a summary...

    Fastballs - location is 2x-3x more important than velocity, but velocity is 1.5x-2x more important than movement. However, you can't teach velocity, just like you can't teach raw power or make a basketball player taller.

    Curves - importance ranks velo, vertical movement, location, then horizontal movement.

    Sliders - importance ranks location (down), horizontal movement (away) and velo last.

    Change - keeping it down is by far the most
    Important aspect covered in this analysis, but common sense tells us the velo delta must approach 8-10 MPH, and the delivery must match the delivery of the FA.
    At first glance all of that makes sense. I'd even suspect Joe Simpson would agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Its going to be sooooo frustrating watching Newk the next 2+ years. He's really tip toeing at an inflection point of being a terrible starter or a TOR pitcher.
    but is it fun?

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    Newk keeps missing armside. Almost certainly a release point issue. Those are fixable but the question is whether he'll fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    but is it fun?
    I can't even pretend this is fun. Needs to just be more aggressive. Just get hit a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    At first glance all of that makes sense. I'd even suspect Joe Simpson would agree with that.
    I was actually very surprised that velo was the most important aspect of a curve.

    I was also surprised that location wasn't the most important aspect of all pitches considering how evil "hanging breaking balls" are considered.

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    Anyone got Phillips defensive stats at 3b? Eye test says he's been really good

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Anyone got Phillips defensive stats at 3b? Eye test says he's been really good
    so far so good

    +1 DRS and +1.6 UZR

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    Threw a 3-2 change. Didn't get an out but I like the confidence.

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    It took 93 pitches and the bases loaded for Snit to finally get someone in the pen?

    At this point, Newcomb should be out.

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    Newcomb getting squeezed some imo


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