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    Cuba

    Another well done foreign policy job by Obama


    16 US diplomats struck by strange conditions, traumatic brain injuries in Cuba


    The Cuban government is showing how thankful they are that Obama helped them out

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    Obama was right on Cuba.


    Trump is horribly wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Obama was right on Cuba.


    Trump is horribly wrong

    It doesn't bother you in the least that Cuba is using sound waves and 16 us diplomats could have permanent brain damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    It doesn't bother you in the least that Cuba is using sound waves and 16 us diplomats could have permanent brain damage?
    Of course it does.
    embargos aren't going to solve that

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    easily one of the smartest things Obama did was open up relations with Cuba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    It doesn't bother you in the least that Cuba is using sound waves and 16 us diplomats could have permanent brain damage?
    it doesn't bother you that our policies hurt millions of Cubans (much less letting the cuban gov't use us as scape goat for their flawed ways)

    why should i give a **** about 16 workers for the orange piece of ****?
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    Obama's Cuba policy was rushed for political purposes. Right idea, horrible approach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    it doesn't bother you that our policies hurt millions of Cubans (much less letting the cuban gov't use us as scape goat for their flawed ways)
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    it doesn't bother you that our policies hurt millions of Cubans (much less letting the cuban gov't use us as scape goat for their flawed ways)

    why should i give a **** about 16 workers for the orange piece of ****?
    I mean, we could be bothered by both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Obama's Cuba policy was rushed for political purposes. Right idea, horrible approach.

    It was long overdue and should've been handled quickly to keep the chatter down. Don't see the downside.

    And given the current administration's approach one really has to laugh at your criticism of Obama. He had and coordinated with a functioning State Dept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I mean, we could be bothered by both.
    i am not talking about we

    i am talking to a trump supporter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Obama's Cuba policy was rushed for political purposes. Right idea, horrible approach.

    would expect better from the likes of you honestly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    It was long overdue and should've been handled quickly to keep the chatter down. Don't see the downside.

    And given the current administration's approach one really has to laugh at your criticism of Obama. He had and coordinated with a functioning State Dept.
    I see plenty of downside in rushing into bed with a country that has an oppressive dictator and a brutal record of human rights abuses. It's amazing how Obama's completely vetted and State coordinated policy didn't address, or attempt to address, those issues. It's also amazing that you, in particular, continue to defend Obama's FoPo when it's literally the lowest hanging fruit on the Black Jesus tree.

    I agree that a thaw in relations with Cuba was long overdue, I just don't agree that it was necessary to lift all sanctions/restrictions - carte blanche - without attempting to leverage some sort of reform out of the PCC. Cuba is a great country and its people deserve better.

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    Another 'sonic' attack against US diplomats at the embassy in Havana is feared to have taken place in August.
    The newest incident is said to have affected another three diplomats, bringing the total number of people harmed to 19.
    It comes after a spate of attacks between November 2016 and April 2017 which left 16 diplomats suffering severe health problems.
    Some lost their hearing and others suffered mild brain injuries as a result of the undetected attacks which authorities fear took place at their homes or nearby.
    It is not clear where exactly the most recent incident occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    It doesn't bother you in the least that Cuba is using sound waves and 16 us diplomats could have permanent brain damage?
    Does it bother you that our police use the same thing and claim it's not a weapon? As for Cuba, what motive do they have to do this? Spite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Does it bother you that our police use the same thing and claim it's not a weapon? As for Cuba, what motive do they have to do this? Spite?
    I forgot that the local police department used sonic waves to mess with people's brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I forgot that the local police department used sonic waves to mess with people's brains.
    well, they do



    thankfully it seems most of Cuba was spared from Irma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I forgot that the local police department used sonic waves to mess with people's brains.








    And just for an added bonus here is a story about Hillary using noise blocking equipment to stop reporters from hearing what she was saying at a fundraiser. Clearly she has nothing to hide.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I mean, we could be bothered by both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Obama's Cuba policy was rushed for political purposes. Right idea, horrible approach.

    Agreed, but only because I still can't buy Cuban cigars online.

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