I'll make it even easier for you. Here is the article: http://www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/w...HPzU15Yp41qvI/
I'm long past the point in life where I have crushes on management or players. I have no bad wishes on the front offices, but it won't matter to me much if they all get fired tomorrow.
I can only judge the rebuild on the timeframe that it seemed reasonable to me to judge it on.
Last edited by Enscheff; 08-29-2017 at 02:10 PM.
We are past the point of moving on from Bobby and JS. That time is over and the only way to move on is for them to ride off into the sunset and hopefully soon. We need new fresh blood that goes against the grain some. I like most of the pitching prospects we have but I wish we would have built around more bats than we did. Most of us knew that 2017 was a pipedream and i'm sure the FO knew too but of course they would never admit up to it, now they are trying to do things so it looks like they are trying to right the ship. I expect we'll see more moves soon.
I'm not coming at you, because I haven't taken the time to parse the genesis of all the numbers, but I've seen three different sources with three different numbers, ranging from $112M to $126. My point was that Coach McGuirk said he expected a top-10 payroll.
I realize that will have to wait and see if it comes to fruition, but it just sounds like horse**** to me.
Easy answer. They have went in more than one direction because they have more than one person calling the shots, and many moves are made OR vetoed from above. I bet you have Coppy, the John's, heck even Bobby giving their two cents. Where they probably have left people alone to do their job (outside of the obvious rush to promote guys)...is the farm. It just happens to be the bright spot. I bet it's a cluster bomb to get a move through all of the elder group.
Ok, so there was a shuffle of roles and titles. In larger corporations titles carry an expected payroll so sometimes a title change is just a raise. If there was a battle in the FO I’d say the Hart/Coppy combo would be winning. Dave Trembley was the odd man out and he was hired before Hart/Coppy took over. Coppy got a new assistant to GM in Billy Ryan who is an analytics guy who created their system “Tomahawk”. Roy Clark got a much needed raise. I don't think this is the conspiracy theory some are making it out to be.
Jaw (08-30-2017)
Sounds like we might be seeing a Bobby Cox and John Schuerholz moving on ceremony sometime this fall...
Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.
None of this is shocking
1. A rebuild like this takes 4-5 years (they should know this), and our real talent is just beginning to come up. We suck in 2019...everyone should be gone. We "should" be a playoff team by then.
2. This really lines up with us making another "win now" #stupid move in the offseason, to try and make things look better at the cost of some of our prospects that seem to be turning the corner. Ugh...shoot me!!
Intersting to see Law to go so strongly against this. He's generally been better connected to the Braves than Ken.
Edit: I can't make the tweets show up, isn't it just [TW] at the beggining and end of link?
Last edited by Oklahomabrave; 08-29-2017 at 09:55 PM.
Law and Ken have pretty consistently been on opposite sides of the Braves rebuild opinions.
Ken seems to be close with Wren has written a number of articles taking his back against the Braves pointing at him as a scapegoat. He's written that Wren was not permitted an off year or a rebuild or a retool. And he's questioned the Braves for tearing down a solid team for the easier task of selling assets for prospects.
Law seems to like what Atlanta has done.
They could both be right.