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    dansby spitting on those sliders

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    Maples has thrown Swanson 5 straight sliders. He might be about to be tested with 25%+ sliders soon.

    Luckily Maples couldn't locate at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    dansby spitting on those sliders
    I want to know who told him to stand close to the plate. He's seeing the slider much better now.

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    Dansby's average is up more than 30 points since coming back up and his .OBP is .318. I know that's not "good," but if that's not progress, I don't know what is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I want to know who told him to stand close to the plate. He's seeing the slider much better now.
    probably one of the coaches in AAA that he never met before

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Dansby's average is up more than 30 points since coming back up and his .OBP is .318. I know that's not "good," but if that's not progress, I don't know what is.
    To me the biggest thing is his K% is down below 14% now since coming back up. If Dansby can live in that range (aka not getting ate up by sliders) he's going to be a good hitter.

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    Enshceff- I know you keep saying Frieds FB has little movement. I'm under the impression it has below average horizontal movement but has good verticle movement- does statcast reflect that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    We only have data on Zito's curve from 2007 and later when he was already 29, but his curve had 11 inches of drop, and in later years lost an inch of drop and added 4+ inches of horizontal movement.

    It stands to reason a younger Zito threw it a bit harder and may have had more movement.

    If Zito's was a 75/80, and Newk's is a 60, Fried's is a 65.
    Zito had 5 pitches if I'm not mistaken too although he didn't use them all a lot as his curve was definetely his out pitch...and I'm by no means saying Fried is Hamels but they have similar build and mechanics...Hamels also had a weak changeup when he came into the league that he definetely worked on

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    Helluva start for Fried. I am so insanely impressed against a great lineup.

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    And I get to watch Minter. God is so good lol

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    Best news is all the crap relievers threw a ton of pitches Saturday, so they don't figure to muck this up.

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    Albies, Swanson, fried, and minter are making me look forward to next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Best news is all the crap relievers threw a ton of pitches Saturday, so they don't figure to muck this up.
    I wouldn't count on it just yet...Freeman didn't pitch long though and Ramirez and Viz didn't pitch I believe either...

    Nice inning for Minter

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveAKAslick View Post
    Zito had 5 pitches if I'm not mistaken too although he didn't use them all a lot as his curve was definetely his out pitch...and I'm by no means saying Fried is Hamels but they have similar build and mechanics...Hamels also had a weak changeup when he came into the league that he definetely worked on
    Hamels had a good change with good fade. He was mainly a FB/CH guy with his curve not being very good. He also averaged 92 on his fastball when 92 meant something 10 years ago, and that fastball had excellent 4 seam rise (12+ inches).

    That's why he never had much of a platoon advantage vs LHers.

    I don't think Fried is simlar to Hamels at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Albies, Swanson, fried, and minter are making me look forward to next year
    We are not as far away as our record indicates. If acuna is the real deal things get fUn real quick.

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    Winkler, Morris, Minter, Viz, Ramirez, Lindgren, Freeman, Biddle (is he on DL or what?) isn't a bad start for the BP at all imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Enshceff- I know you keep saying Frieds FB has little movement. I'm under the impression it has below average horizontal movement but has good verticle movement- does statcast reflect that?
    Here are average movement for LHed SPs.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the...ch-pitch-type/

    Fried's has 4.2 inches of fade and 7.1 inches of rise on his fastball. It is neither a sinker nor a riser, it's right in between. It doesn't have much fade. It is very straight, and a below average pitch even at 93. At 90 it is almost unusable.
    Last edited by Enscheff; 09-03-2017 at 03:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Here are average movement for LHed SPs.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the...ch-pitch-type/

    Fried's has 4.2 inches of fade and 7.1 inches of rise on his fastball. It is neither a sinker nor a riser, it's right in between. It doesn't have much fade. It is very straight, and a below average pitch even at 93. At 90 it is almost unusable.
    Love the Statcast info but for whatever reason I think he's holding back on his FB, may not change his movement whatsoever though...was reading that he throws his curve with two different grips, one that ends up resembling a slurve...that may have been the "weird pitch" you referred to earlier in the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveAKAslick View Post
    Love the Statcast info but for whatever reason I think he's holding back on his FB, may not change his movement whatsoever though...was reading that he throws his curve with two different grips, one that ends up resembling a slurve...that may have been the "weird pitch" you referred to earlier in the thread
    Could be. That pitch needs to go away. It is not good.

    I highly doubt Fried is holding back. Averaging 93.3 out of the BP is likely the best we could optimistically hope for as a SP.
    Last edited by Enscheff; 09-03-2017 at 03:44 PM.

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