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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    ... and the chairs of the Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees were supporting staying in and publicly stating that they haven't seen alternatives.
    The people who are cheering this on are the same people that think Trump's "Tough" Rocketman Tweets are the reason for the Korean Summit.
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    Michael Cohen
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    Why would North Korea make any deal with this president on nuclear weapons?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
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    Why would North Korea make any deal with this president on nuclear weapons?
    Why would we want to make any deals with Iran when they are directly responsible the deaths of American soldiers?

    Amazing that you guys are taking this path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Never been more proud to be an American. We cannot tolerate regimes like Iran.
    Sure we can. You love KSA now, right?

    That aside, can you briefly explain what the upside of this move is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    The people who are cheering this on are the same people that think Trump's "Tough" Rocketman Tweets are the reason for the Korean Summit.
    You know - The South Korean president only said it was in large part due to Trump but its not like I expect you to give him any credit.

    Things have gone tremendously well the last 2 years and its scaring the hell out of the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    There is no trusting Iran. Its a losing battle and its naive to think they would ever uphold their agreements. .
    Please enlighten us on your Iran intel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Sure we can. You love KSA now, right?

    That aside, can you briefly explain what the upside of this move is?
    The upside is that we impose sanctions and squeeze the hell out of their leadership. My ultimate goal is to allow the people to have the means to seize control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Please enlighten us on your Iran intel.
    So you are going to trust a country that funds terrorism all across the middle east to adhere to a western deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Why would we want to make any deals with Iran when they are directly responsible the deaths of American soldiers?

    Amazing that you guys are taking this path.
    I'm not taking any path, I posed a question
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So you are going to trust a country that funds terrorism all across the middle east to adhere to a western deal?
    Jeez, nobody tell thethe about Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You know - The South Korean president only said it was in large part due to Trump but its not like I expect you to give him any credit.

    Things have gone tremendously well the last 2 years and its scaring the hell out of the left.
    It takes away from what Moon Jae-In actually achieve and did to reach out to Kim (I don't expect you to actually have read what's happened since you're too busy slobbering over Trump).

    Do you honestly think the sitting South Korean President is going to throw Trump under the bus when he's this close to achieving what he has to ensure some safety for his country? What good would have come from that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I'm not taking any path, I posed a question
    Well then my response to that question is as long as North Korea is not funding operations that directly lead to American deaths then we keep our promises.

    It is Iran that has not upheld their part of the deal. But this aspect will be ignored by the most on the left. I suppose they are happy with the funding of terrorist cells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Jeez, nobody tell thethe about Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
    If you think this is the same Saudi Arabia as 10 years ago then you are kidding yourself.

    I don't care at all about Pakistan. We are only there so Islamic Groups don't take over the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    It takes away from what Moon Jae-In actually achieve and did to reach out to Kim (I don't expect you to actually have read what's happened since you're too busy slobbering over Trump).

    Do you honestly think the sitting South Korean President is going to throw Trump under the bus when he's this close to achieving what he has to ensure some safety for his country? What good would have come from that?
    So all of a sudden South Korea was able to convince Kim to change his mind. No influence at all from a new direction from the US.

    Wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So all of a sudden South Korea was able to convince Kim to change his mind. No influence at all from a new direction from the US.

    Wow
    Case closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Sure we can. You love KSA now, right?

    That aside, can you briefly explain what the upside of this move is?
    Briefly? It puts Rouhani in a tough position politically, demonstrates resolve to end Syrian conflict, acts as another strong signal to our allies in the Middle East.

    But Bob Corker supported staying in.

    So.... yeah.

    I'm sorry, but that's a funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The upside is that we impose sanctions and squeeze the hell out of their leadership. My ultimate goal is to allow the people to have the means to seize control.
    So, in other words, a return to the status quo ante, under which sanctions regime Iran began and advanced their nuke program. The reason the agreement was worth half a **** was because we brought the other global players on board to jointly offer carrots and sticks. If they won't reimpose sanctions, how do you suppose we're going to accomplish more by going it alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Case closed.
    Your inability to see the good that is happening with this administration is sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    So, in other words, a return to the status quo ante, under which sanctions regime Iran began and advanced their nuke program. The reason the agreement was worth half a **** was because we brought the other global players on board to jointly offer carrots and sticks. If they won't reimpose sanctions, how do you suppose we're going to accomplish more by going it alone?
    You think carrots and sticks work with leaders that call for the destruction of whole nations?

    Your guys faith in evil is scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Briefly? It puts Rouhani in a tough position politically, demonstrates resolve to end Syrian conflict, acts as another strong signal to our allies in the Middle East.

    But Bob Corker said supported staying in.

    So.... yeah.

    I'm sorry, but that's a funny.
    As did both House chairs, squishy pinkos that they are.

    There is literally no Trump turd you won't try to polish.

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