Global Events & Politics Überthread

[cajunrevenge]

The problem with Libertarianism is people want immediate fixes to the problem and if you can't give them that they would rather go with the Republicrats who will promise immediate fixes by doubling down on what caused the problem. Also people say they want freedom but they really mean they want the freedom to push their version of morality on others. Freedom isn't being allowed to only make government approved good choices and it's not the governments job to provide for people who make bad choices.

[thethe]

Was pretty much telegraphed.

Been saying this for over a year.

[cajunrevenge]

Which wars haven't ended with negotiation?

[sturg33]

Which wars haven't ended with negotiation?

What do you think Ukraine got out of this war in the end?

[thethe]

Which wars haven't ended with negotiation?

We could have been at this very same spot with a better world situation had we not pushed Putin to war in the first place.

[thethe]

Да, я согласен

[thethe]

It gets worse and worse. This was obviously a war pushed by western elites.

Shame so many of you fell for this.

Ukrainian pride!

Putin bad!!!!

Oil refinery with nukes!

Morons.

[Tapate50]

It gets worse and worse. This was obviously a war pushed by western elites.

Shame so many of you fell for this.

Ukrainian pride!

Putin bad!!!!

Oil refinery with nukes!

Morons.

I believe BL needed to see this. He believed such talks would have been "news to him".

[thethe]

I believe BL needed to see this. He believed such talks would have been "news to him".

Got to be tough to wake up every day as wrong as he is - Shame his students don't know....

[thethe]

This was all obvious from the beginning.

Putin was RIGHT to do what he did because the US kept acting like the aggressor for 15 years (shortly interrupted by the 'Peace President').

Feel bad for the idiots that thought this was a 'Putin Bad' situation and that he was wrong to invade. Looks like some people don't understand that are always multiple perspectives and not just the 'US' perspective.

[Tapate50]

We were broadcasting it on late night tv in 2014.

[thethe]

We were broadcasting it on late night tv in 2014.

What the Hussein regime did to the destabilize the world should never be forgotten. It was miraculous that Trump was able to hold it together with unprecedented resistance locally and abroad.

[cajunrevenge]

What do you think Ukraine got out of this war in the end?

It's not over yet so we don't know the final results but if you lived in a country bordering Russia would you rather live in a country aligned with the west or with Russia/China?

[cajunrevenge]

We could have been at this very same spot with a better world situation had we not pushed Putin to war in the first place.

Yeah, the guy whose goal it is to reunify the USSR has to be pushed into war. Lets just give dictators whatever they want to avoid war. That's worked so well before. China wants Taiwan? So obviously we should abandon them so there no war.

[thethe]

I'm convinced that Bolton was kept around just so Trump could leverage this lunatic in negotiations with foreign leaders.

Never listed to a word he said and we were better off for it!

[Tapate50]

I mean that’s one way to look at poor hiring practices

[nsacpi]

Netanyahu: "In the future, the state of Israel has to control the entire area from the river to the sea."

[thethe]

I do not see what options Israel has at this point after they discovered vast networks happening in broad daylight in Gaza.

If the Palestinians facilitate the demise of Israelis then they are the same as Hamas.

Israel still doesn't need our help doing this but I think its clear this has to be the path forward or else we will be right back here in another 10 years.

[nsacpi]

I do not see what options Israel has at this point after they discovered vast networks happening in broad daylight in Gaza.

If the Palestinians facilitate the demise of Israelis then they are the same as Hamas.

Israel still doesn't need our help doing this but I think its clear this has to be the path forward or else we will be right back here in another 10 years.

Hamas was in many ways Israel's creature. They calculated (or miscalculated as turned out to be the case) that Hamas would be a useful foil. Israel could play a more constructive role in nurturing a responsible Palestinian political leadership. But as you note it is their choice. They seem to prefer not to have an interlocutor they can make a deal with.

[thethe]

Hamas was in many ways Israel's creature. They calculated (or miscalculated as turned out to be the case) that Hamas would be a useful foil.

Sure - Israel created anti Jewish sentiment within the Islamic community.

Whatevs.

Israel could commit to wiping the ass of every Palestinian for the next century and it wouldn’t be enough to stop the hated.

Silly example but it gets to the underlying point. Embrace of hatred will always be a part of the Islamic community