Global Events & Politics Überthread

[sturg33]

What doesn't make sense about the war has been an epic failure for the West and now they have to move to different forms of warfare that are less direct in nature?

Are you actually being serious?

You haven't yet explained why America would want a terrorist attack pinned to ISIS in Russia, or why ISIS would take credit for it immediately.

I'm all ears

[sturg33]

Is the goal to get Russia troops more engaged in the ME and America teams up with ISIS to take them out without declaring war against Russia?

[thethe]

You haven't yet explained why America would want a terrorist attack pinned to ISIS in Russia, or why ISIS would take credit for it immediately.

I'm all ears

Why would they want to destabalize Russis without getting blame for it?

Why would ISIS take credit for it immediatelyi when they've done so in the past?

I can't believe you are asking these questions. Your intellectual curiosity has been destroyed.

[sturg33]

Why would they want to destabalize Russis without getting blame for it?

Why would ISIS take credit for it immediatelyi when they've done so in the past?

I can't believe you are asking these questions. Your intellectual curiosity has been destroyed.

My curiosity is happening at the very second by asking you directly and all you come back with is "I can't believe you're asking such silly questions"

[thethe]

My curiosity is happening at the very second by asking you directly and all you come back with is "I can't believe you're asking such silly questions"

You literally just asked why would America want to be behind an attack and not having hteir enemy know it was them.

Did you think that was a good question?

[nsacpi]

you are misunderestimating the conspiracy theory community

bump

this time for ****s and giggles

[thethe]

bump

this time for ****s and giggles

Hey - Remember when you thought that Trump enjoyed golden showers while taking orders from Putin?

How about when you thought natural immunity was a croc?

[sturg33]

You literally just asked why would America want to be behind an attack and not having hteir enemy know it was them.

Did you think that was a good question?

Correct I'm still asking why they want it blamed on ISIS

[thethe]

Correct I'm still asking why they want it blamed on ISIS

Just want to confirm one last time - You are asking why a country would coordinate an attack against their enemy and do their best for their enemy to not know it was them?

[sturg33]

Just want to confirm one last time - You are asking why a country would coordinate an attack against their enemy and do their best for their enemy to not know it was them?

No I'm asking how it benefits ISIS to take credit and America for ISIS to be blamed

I'm all ears and offered a proposed reason above.

[chop2chip]

Or maybe it was just ISIS who have done these sorts of attacks for the last 15 years.

The only evidence to the contrary you can provide are “questions”.

ISIS has bodycam footage.

Establishment narrative lol

[thethe]

No I'm asking how it benefits ISIS to take credit and America for ISIS to be blamed

I'm all ears and offered a proposed reason above.

The second question is laugable and not even sure how you could ask it.

The first is also easy but I'll answer it anyway. Its very common for terrorist groups to claim credit for attacks (paying attention the last 20 years and you'd know this). The reason they do this is because they are looking for new consripts and they push the idea that they are executing on real Jihad that will result in the perpetrators going to heaven. If you can't show (CLAIM) any real impacts around the world young Muslim men will not go to your cause.

[thethe]

Or maybe it was just ISIS who have done these sorts of attacks for the last 15 years.

The only evidence to the contrary you can provide are “questions”.

ISIS has bodycam footage.

Establishment narrative lol

OMG! BODYCAM FOOTAGE?!?!!?

Impossible to imagine where this footage was instantly posted to various section of the dark web that are accessible to these types of actors and they claim credit.

Has to be that ISIS can only get this because they set it up.

[chop2chip]

OMG! BODYCAM FOOTAGE?!?!!?

Impossible to imagine where this footage was instantly posted to various section of the dark web that are accessible to these types of actors and they claim credit.

Has to be that ISIS can only get this because they set it up.

Okay. Show me your evidence

[thethe]

Okay. Show me your evidence

I have zero evidence - Your 'evidence' has shown numerous times in the past to be foolish as ISIS and other groups falsely claim credit as well. But don't bother with those pesky facts...

[chop2chip]

I have zero evidence - Your 'evidence' has shown numerous times in the past to be foolish as ISIS and other groups falsely claim credit as well. But don't bother with those pesky facts...

Can you provide examples where ISIS had body cam footage that turned out not to be from them?

[thethe]

Can you provide examples where ISIS had body cam footage that turned out not to be from them?

No because body cam footage of actual attacks is a new wrinkle in this type of soft target attacks.

[chop2chip]

If this has happened numerous times, it should be quick and easy for you to find them

[thethe]

If this has happened numerous times, it should be quick and easy for you to find them

I can't believe you would even ask this because typically you are much m ore knowledge about these types of things but ISIS and other terrorist groups claiming responsiblity when its not the case is relativelyi common:

https://www.hstoday.us/featured/how-...tacks-in-iran/

[thethe]

Oooof - Feel ugly posting a business insider article but its titled "Why ISIS claims responsibility for attacks it didn't commit"


https://www.businessinsider.com/why-...ooting-2017-10

But continue to believe the original narratives without understanding the history and motives on all sides.