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    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...e-dubious.html

    ISIS Is Not Known for Falsely Taking Credit for Attacks—Until Recently
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    Better read these articles now until Western Governemnts take them down...
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    This one for BL:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/la...xperts-n807076

    I just can't believe how quickly you guys forget recent history becasue someone tells you to belive a certain narrative.
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    Yes. I understand why they would claim they did something they didn’t.

    But that’s not what I asked.

    I’m specifically looking for examples where they had evidence they carried out an attack that they didn’t.

    I’ll wait

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...aim/731172001/


    “It is not without precedent for the Islamic State to issue boldly misleading statements about important events,” Smith said.

    For example, ISIS claimed that U.S. forces destroyed the al-Nuri mosque in Mosul. They’ve also inflated the amount of territory under ISIS rule.

    “There is certainly a case to be made that much of the content of Islamic State propaganda is false information or obfuscatory information,” Smith said.

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    And I'm the crazy one for saying we shouldn't just believe ISIS is responsible because they said so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Yes. I understand why they would claim they did something they didn’t.

    But that’s not what I asked.

    I’m specifically looking for examples where they had evidence they carried out an attack that they didn’t.

    I’ll wait
    Your 'evidence' is the body cam footage right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    No I'm asking how it benefits ISIS to take credit

    Hope this puts to bed this insanely stupid question....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Your 'evidence' is the body cam footage right?
    Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Correct
    Ok - So then your contention is the only way that ISIS could have access to this is if they themselves coordianted/executed the attack?
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    A different question is why don't you believe ISIS did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    A different question is why don't you believe ISIS did it?
    Have I diffinitively stated that ISIS didn't do this?

    I guess asking questions of the quickly established narrative is bad in your eyes now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Ok - So then your contention is the only way that ISIS could have access to this is if they themselves coordianted/executed the attack?
    “Only” is your word, not mine. But to answer your question, I think it’s highly unlikely they were provided the body cam footage by a third party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Have I diffinitively stated that ISIS didn't do this?

    I guess asking questions of the quickly established narrative is bad in your eyes now....
    Asking questions is always a great exercise.

    But you've done a lot more work explaining how it's probably other things (without evidence) that than you have exploring that maybe the evil.terrorist organization who likes to kill people may have actually killed people

    It's not like ISIS and Russia are friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    “Only” is your word, not mine. But to answer your question, I think it’s highly unlikely they were provided the body cam footage by a third party.
    Ah - So you're already opening up the possibilty that they could have received it via other means even with no involvement with the planning and execution.

    'Highly unlikely' as you put it.

    Glad to know that you're slightly coming around to the possiblity.
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    lol this is peak duhduh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Asking questions is always a great exercise.

    But you've done a lot more work explaining how it's probably other things (without evidence) that than you have exploring that maybe the evil.terrorist organization who likes to kill people may have actually killed people

    It's not like ISIS and Russia are friends
    Wait, you mean to tell me the organization that was born from the same fighters who fought against the USSR in 80s and hate Bashar who's propped up by Putin would have issues with Russia?
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    Biden is a really really poor foreign policy president
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    Russian President Vladimir Putin admitted Monday that “radical Islamists” were behind the massacre of nearly 140 people at a Moscow concert hall last Friday – but he still pointed to Ukraine as the hidden hand behind the terror attack.

    "The question that arises is who benefits from this?" Putin said at the Kremlin during a video conference with leaders of Russia's security forces. "We know by whose hand the crime against Russia and its people was committed. But what is of interest to us is who ordered it."


    I guess that’s enough for TheThe to come around and agree it was ISIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Russian President Vladimir Putin admitted Monday that “radical Islamists” were behind the massacre of nearly 140 people at a Moscow concert hall last Friday – but he still pointed to Ukraine as the hidden hand behind the terror attack.

    "The question that arises is who benefits from this?" Putin said at the Kremlin during a video conference with leaders of Russia's security forces. "We know by whose hand the crime against Russia and its people was committed. But what is of interest to us is who ordered it."


    I guess that’s enough for TheThe to come around and agree it was ISIS
    Is that what Putin said?

    I do know that as long as Hannity tells you it was ISIS and keeps saying Putin bad! You’ll believe it!
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