"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
maybe next---------- time hold off on the touchdown celebration until have actually scored a touchdown, huh?
This is who Trump is, always was, always will be.
Hopefully something will happen down the road.
Let's wait and see.
Then let's wait to see the outcomes
Please
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
I think it’ll still happen.
hope so.
But before we crown success', lets have an event first, ok ?
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
I think there has been three major events from which we can draw some level of satisfaction: the Olympics, the joint Koreas summit, release of American hostages
Meaningful progress has been made here, however we choose to slice it.
I agree with this entirely. I think that more high-level meetings will happen, and that the events Hawk mentions are tangible positives and offer some hope. I also agree with sacpi that a leader summit without more concessions in place was probably the wrong call, and this development may change the calculus.
I disagree with the credit (and, frankly, blame to some extent) ascribed to Trump in this. I hope that the premature talk of denuclearization and Nobel Prizes can be seen as pointless and silly.
I quibble with some of the delivery, but I think the change in rhetoric, away from dehumanization and "othering" and toward conventional diplomatic language is a positive development and I give Trump credit for that. I guess it's too much to ask to extend that kind of diplomacy to Iran.
we don't know that yet.
We as well as Great Britain participated in the 1936 Berlin Olympics
Time has a funny way of playing out in these affairs
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Should we pay attention to the rumors that Kim cancelled because he was a afraid of a coup when he left the country?
Natural Immunity Croc
On Thursday morning, Mr. Pompeo told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee the U.S. had sought for “many days” to arrange meetings between teams of U.S. and North Korean officials to prepare for the summit, but had received no response from Pyongyang.
I think this is the crux of the issue. It was very late in the day for preparations to be made. The formula has to be progress in negotiations first then a summit.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
the real issue is how few understand this is the work the State Department and diplomats undertake.
Last I checked, we don't have an ambassador to S Korea
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The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Yes. Those are meaningful events.
At the same time, I think there are downside risks to how this played out. We won't know for sure for months, maybe years. And the risks go beyond how things play out with N Korea. I think other countries are watching and wondering. S Korea for one.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Sounds like Trump blindsided Seoul with this. Sheesh. Sounds about right.
goldfly (05-25-2018)