who would you want as new pitching coach

[bravesfanMatt]

I am never one to blame poor performance from a Professional player on a coach... but the obvious regression from several guys and the inability to bring up prospects and have them throw strikes has to be noted. Plus when you rebuild around pitching and then hire someone who walked 7 guys per 9 innings as your pitching coach, you have to take pause and say "hmm, maybe there is more to coaching than I realized"

So if I get my wish and we wax Chuckie.. who is out there that is intriguing and worth going after.

[Millwood1Hitter]

Dave Wallace

[Horsehide Harry]

Pitching coach: Ray Searage

Hitting Coach: Brook Jacoby

[The Chosen One]

Leo Mazzone

[bravesfanMatt]

Leo Mazzone

As much as I am ready to see the 90's Braves die, I would not be opposed to Leo coming back. He is strong willed and would be good for young guys. I don't think he meshes well with grisly vets though.

[The Chosen One]

As much as I am ready to see the 90's Braves die, I would not be opposed to Leo coming back. He is strong willed and would be good for young guys. I don't think he meshes well with grisly vets though.

He gave a lot of extra life to washed up pitchers.

Burkett, Jose Cabrera, Seanez always did well with us, Chris Hammond, Rem, Holmes, Alfonseca.

He had some failures he couldn't magically fix like Blowberto, Retisma, Belinda, etc.

[CyYoung31]

Roger McDowell.

[bravesfanMatt]

Roger McDowell.

He was the scape goat for Blair and Wisler sucking, when Blair and Wisler might just suck. I would give Roger a 10 year deal just to get rid of Chuckie.

[CyYoung31]

Dont think Greg would do it unless Glav or Smoltz were in the dugout with him. He needs someone to shoot the **** with during the game.

Too bad Fredi isn't there any more.

[Southcack77]

He was the scape goat for Blair and Wisler sucking, when Blair and Wisler might just suck. I would give Roger a 10 year deal just to get rid of Chuckie.

How exactly did you get an opinion on the effectiveness of the pitching coach?

[GovClintonTyree]

How exactly did you get an opinion on the effectiveness of the pitching coach?

I go with relative suckage of the pitching staff. When three guys have the worst year of their lives, a few more regress and nobody develops, I think that is prima facie evidence of pitching coach suckage.

[Southcack77]

I go with relative suckage of the pitching staff. When three guys have the worst year of their lives, a few more regress and nobody develops, I think that is prima facie evidence of pitching coach suckage.

We talking crazy home splits Teheran, exactly the same amount of bad in Minnesota Fats, and who da third?

[jcc03004]

We talking crazy home splits Teheran, exactly the same amount of bad in Minnesota Fats, and who da third?

I think for this team with this staff..Smoltz would almost be perfect. Remember Smoltz when he was younger.... plus his insight to pitching that I've seen from the booth are amazing. Folty screams to me a young Smoltz with a 100 mph fastball.

Now Glavine should teach the minor leagues how to throw a change. Read just the other day 3 or 4 pitchers and how did they make it to the show without a third pitch...

[rico43]

I'm afraid Smoltz has gone national, but Glav is still firmly rooted in Atlanta with the Braves as an advisor. He would be, I'd guess, a tremendous teacher and he would likely draw heavily from the Book of Leo.

[jcc03004]

I think for this team with this staff..Smoltz would almost be perfect. Remember Smoltz when he was younger.... plus his insight to pitching that I've seen from the booth are amazing. Folty screams to me a young Smoltz with a 100 mph fastball.

Now Glavine should teach the minor leagues how to throw a change. Read just the other day 3 or 4 pitchers and how did they make it to the show without a third pitch...

Plus which Braves pitcher is going to ignore Smoltz.. plus we might get more homeboy upstairs stuff... classic

[salmagundy]

As I posted a week ago, conclusion was Hernandez has to be the 1st to go.

My choice for new PC would be bring McDo-well back

"In reading many threads on this board, the over all problem appears to be pitching. Of those suggested to be traded are mostly pitchers except for the obvious Kemp, Markakis, and Matt Adams.

Has anyone really looked at the Braves pitching problems? J.Johnson's regression, Julio's regression, the lack of progress to being an MLB elite pitcher by Folty, and the poor development of Sims, Newcomb, Wisler, and many others to MLB competent pitchers. They have been developed as throwers, not pitchers,

Who is responsible for poor development?? Chuck Hernandez

Who is Hernandez? He was the Braves MiLB roving pitching coordinator in '16. Prior to that he was pitching coach in Miami('13-'15). With the like of Jose Fernandez, Alvarez, Koehler and Haren on the staffs, how could it not be possible to have success? Moving on, he was an assistant coach at U of S.Fla.

Stops in the GCL and Cleveland(BP coach), and from '06 to '08 was coach at Detroit(Verlander rookie year) and 9 years with Rays as MiLB coach and 2 years as MLB pitching coach.

Not a sterling resume. Only 3 year MLB PC stint was in Miami, all other MLB PC stints were 2 years or less.

J. Johnson made a statement that the only reason he signed 2 year deal was to pitch under McDowell(great sinker guy).Hernandez has been unable to take a very young staff and make pitchers out of them. Even Folty and Julio are now throwers. Extremely high pitch counts are causing many problems. Has been a topic of concern by our broadcast crew more and more. Sims "Ford Keys to success" today(game 3 vs Cubs) was to keep pitch count at 15 PPI. 15 is 3 higher than Leo promoted. Sims actual PC was 73(39 strikes) in 3 IP(24 PPI avg).

If you're going to fire people, JS has drawn a great amount of ire on this board,, Hernandez needs to be the 1st to go IMO."

[Tapate50]

As a reliever, JJ likely signed the longest deal he could get. I doubt RM was more than a tertiary reason for it.