Sounds like Suzuki is betting on himself and that makes me more positive about his future. I think he could have got a 3 year deal for 6+ million from some team this winter. Funny that he has less at bats in his career year since 2007.
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Good signing. Hope they can get Flowers to add a few years to his deal. I expect the Flowers / Suzuki combo to regress a little next year but they should still be an overall above average combo.
I don't think Sitzer gets enough credit. He is the one coach that seems to be getting results. Suzuki gives him a lot of credit, Ender is better than I thought he would ever be, and Freddie has turned into a beast since he has been the hitting coach. The hitting the last two years has been ok considering the talent on the team. Really the only guy that has not produced like they should is Dansby.
Flowers has also given Seitzer a lot of credit for turning his hitting around.
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Oh wow, I would have never thought we could have gotten him for that cheap, even though I think its perfectly fair given I think Suzuki is performing wayyy above his head at the moment. Awesome signing
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Have to feel good about any deal where you get good value on a high character veteran on a one year contract. Price for veteran catching continues to be very low. It's a great situation for the Braves, given their organizational depth issues at C.
Ha, yeah I'm a little more bullish on this one, but I also loved the Colon signing, so my optimism in on year deals is probably bordering on irrational.
True enough. It didn't work out, but many of the other FA and trade targets that seemed attracitve on 2 or 3 year commitments also ended up looking bad, so it could be worse.
Historically speaking, no one-year deal can be considered bad. You can always cut your losses and move on. But Suzuki might be around longer than that.
FYI: I like him behind he plate much more than Flow.
resigning a backup catcher coming off a real good year to a reasonable one year deal is pretty ok with me. If he regresses you are still paying him to be the backup catcher.
Certainly not arguing those metrics - no doubt in my mind that Flowers is correctly ranked as the better framer - it's just a "feel" thing for me. I'm sure someone might be able to dig up info on this, but Tyler seems to miss a lot of foul tips, many that I think he ought to catch at times. He also seems to get crossed-up and has to lunge a lot more often than Suzuki - but the blame for that could very well lie with the Pitchers, who knows? I actually only prefer one over the other when Folty or Newcomb are on the mound since I think Tyler's much better suited to consistently steal strikes for them when they already struggle to throw enough quality ones to begin with.
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I think you have to look at the alternatives forgone here. I'll just cite two alternatives that I advocated some for last off-season.
One was Charlie Morton, ex Braves prospect, who ended up signing with the Stros for 2 years at 7M per year.
The other was Edison Volquez, who signed for 2 years for a total of 22M.
Morton had a very nice season and Volquez blew out his elbow and probably won't pitch next year. In a nutshell, this illustrates the risks of going out to multiple years with pitchers. But it also illustrates the potential benefits. You get a certain type of player on one-year deals, and you get players with more upside on multi-year deals. Generally speaking. I think this off-season we should aim a little higher than the 40 something pitcher category. There is risk. But we should take it. Not 5 years or beyond type deals. But maybe 3 years with an option for someone like Lynn or Cobb.
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