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    Sally League Top 20

    Pache (#5), Anderson (#6), Wilson (#11), Wentz (#14) were the Bravos on the list.

    The #1 guy (RHP Sixto Sanchez of the Phillies) sounds like an exceptional prospect. Very young (18 most of the season) but great stuff and a lot of polish already.
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    That is a really odd way to order these guys. Maybe we are a little high on Wentz and Wilson bc of recent success. I would have went Anderson, Wentz, Pache, then Wilson. Interesting though. I've always been kinda low on Pache because I wasn't that big of a believer in his bat, but hopefully I'm wrong

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    Comments on Wentz:

    Even as they watched him dominate, scouts were rarely blown away by Wentz's stuff. His plus changeup was too much for all but the most advanced SAL hitters, but lefties with a good changeup often have their way at low Class A. What Wentz didn't show was another above-average pitch. His 89-93 mph fastball has good plane and he locates it well, but scouts saw it as an average offering. His breaking ball is well below-average right now.

    What concerned scouts the most is that they didn't see all that much projection. Even with no further development, Wentz has a shot to be a back-end starter, but he needs to add more arm speed and velocity to project as a front-end starter.
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    10 guys had better seasons than Wilson? Sounds crazy but maybe the league was stacked this year.

    Love the reports on Wilson in addition to his production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    10 guys had better seasons than Wilson? Sounds crazy but maybe the league was stacked this year.

    Love the reports on Wilson in addition to his production.
    That one single statement proves beyond all doubt you have no idea what prospect rankings are.

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    if anything Wilson's ranking strikes me as being a bit generous

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    That is a really odd way to order these guys. Maybe we are a little high on Wentz and Wilson bc of recent success. I would have went Anderson, Wentz, Pache, then Wilson. Interesting though. I've always been kinda low on Pache because I wasn't that big of a believer in his bat, but hopefully I'm wrong
    I think the deal on Pache is that even if his bat doesn't develop like hoped, he has a MLB future. He is apparently phenomenal defensively and can fly. And while his Ks are high, his BBs are also in a pretty good spot. So even if he doesn't develop much power, he can be a decent bat, sort of in the Inciarte mold with maybe even more on-base skills. So he's pretty easy to project. Next year is huge for him, and he could see a BIG jump.

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    But thethe told me Wentz was in the running for best LHP prospect in baseball. Too much scouting of the stalines. Anderson has always been and will remain the better prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    That is a really odd way to order these guys. Maybe we are a little high on Wentz and Wilson bc of recent success. I would have went Anderson, Wentz, Pache, then Wilson. Interesting though. I've always been kinda low on Pache because I wasn't that big of a believer in his bat, but hopefully I'm wrong
    "70 glove, 60 arm, and top-of-the scale speed"

    Likely makes Acuna a corner guy for the duration of his time here. Obviously early, but with just average development with the bat you're talking a Billy Hamilton-type (if a step slower). The scouts they talked to were comfortable enough to project eventual 10-12 HR pop for him. Solid development with the bat means you replace Ender with a faster Ender down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    But thethe told me Wentz was in the running for best LHP prospect in baseball.
    did he? how could i have missed it
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    But thethe told me Wentz was in the running for best LHP prospect in baseball. Too much scouting of the stalines. Anderson has always been and will remain the better prospect.
    He was in fangraphs most recent rankings. So was I wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    He was in fangraphs most recent rankings. So was I wrong?
    Fangraphs had him 74th.

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    Pretty interesting from their Sally League chat (Taveras is ranked #27 overall by Pipeline)--

    Dan (Sally Land): Pache vs Taveras seems like an interesting debate. Pache seems to show better contact skills and defense. If he can be projected to 15-20hrs, could he surpass Leody?

    J.J. Cooper: It was an interesting debate. Absolutely if you were confident that Pache is going to hit for even average power I'd say he would edge Taveras, but that's a big jump from his lack of power now. I and a number of scouts do believe he'll fill out, but it's projecting a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Pretty interesting from their Sally League chat (Taveras is ranked #27 overall by Pipeline)--

    Dan (Sally Land): Pache vs Taveras seems like an interesting debate. Pache seems to show better contact skills and defense. If he can be projected to 15-20hrs, could he surpass Leody?

    J.J. Cooper: It was an interesting debate. Absolutely if you were confident that Pache is going to hit for even average power I'd say he would edge Taveras, but that's a big jump from his lack of power now. I and a number of scouts do believe he'll fill out, but it's projecting a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I think the deal on Pache is that even if his bat doesn't develop like hoped, he has a MLB future. He is apparently phenomenal defensively and can fly. And while his Ks are high, his BBs are also in a pretty good spot. So even if he doesn't develop much power, he can be a decent bat, sort of in the Inciarte mold with maybe even more on-base skills. So he's pretty easy to project. Next year is huge for him, and he could see a BIG jump.
    I've seen reports say he could be a once a generation defensive prospect, but that seems a bit much.

    Braves have several toolsy guys lower down who could explode if they put things together.

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    Interesting order. Like someone above said, you can't really rank prospects in the low minors based on their stats, especially for guys in their first full season. Some guys will grow more physically while others won't. It's about projected ceiling and the probability that the conjectured ceiling will be reached.

    I don't know if Anderson's being third overall pick in 2016 enters into the thinking, but the national scouting press seems to like him more than the folks in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    Fangraphs had him 74th.
    How many LHP were rated above him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    How many LHP were rated above him?
    Better yet, how many LHP whose last name ends with a Z are ahead of him..
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    Pache is really good. Line drive type hitter with virtually no lift but excellent in CF. THAT BEING SAID....I'm blown away that he is that high. I saw it at times, but a good ceiling nonetheless. Wentz, well sometimes it depends on when scouts see a prospect. For me, Wentz profiled as a 3 for me, but was routinely hitting about 91-93 at 3 games I saw. (I ask scouts at the game typically), I didn't love his offspped stuff but he broke off some devastating curves the few times I saw him. I felt Wilson was more consistent than any pitcher on the staff and sustains his stuff longer.

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