If JS and JH both keep their jobs, that is astounding. They're ultimately responsible for JC. They need to go for a lot of reasons, but this is now the absolute best one.
If JS and JH both keep their jobs, that is astounding. They're ultimately responsible for JC. They need to go for a lot of reasons, but this is now the absolute best one.
Can't see how if it's just the tip of the iceberg, Hart's job is safe. He's Coppy's boss.
You idiot. You just outed yourself as a member of the Pozzy Posse. We were hoping you would remain as our silent partner.Originally Posted by Super
Well yeah, its' easier for them to leak this stuff so focus can be shifted away from them.
They can't play the same card as they did with Wren. Because their argument then was Wren was going renegade, and we have these three baseball minds (Cox, JS, JH) to help bring the Braves back to prominence. This time they can't use that short term memory card, because they groomed Coppy and handpicked him to be the GM. Hart was given a new created title of Director of Baseball Operations so he could still be involved and "supervise" Coppy's direction without the daily grind of being GM. JS has received two new promotions in the last 5 years. Team President and now Vice Chairman. Seems he's immune to whatever bad things happen to us.
Forever Fredi
Yikes. We just need to hope that the investigation is quick and decisive. More and more I think about this, I don't see any way John Hart can continue as President of Baseball Ops beyond the end of this calendar year. If there are truly a cornucopia of issues across front office departments, unlikely he has plausible deniability of wrongdoing.
Chopping With The Braves And Rolling With The Tide
He was just named Interim GM for the second time in the last 3 years.
Forever Fredi
Everything is fine. The Braves FO is competent.
Did I fill in for him?
This is shocking news!!
multiple people are reporting and stating they've heard this directly from other GMs for a while now. I don't see how you're deriving leaks from the Braves FO here.
"Jerry CrasnickVerified account @jcrasnick 22m22 minutes ago
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As @JeffPassan reported, MLB began investigating John Coppolella after receiving multiple complaints from industry execs about his conduct."
Oh boy. Haven't heard Picollo's name in years.
I really do not want Moore here.
Forever Fredi
It's really hard to be optimistic right now. Sounds like we're going to get hammered. Hope I'm wrong.
This is bad.
Do you know how vague Industry Execs is?
Did you see this?
. According to Yahoo! Sports, the Braves organization recently has been engulfed in infighting and chaos involving Coppolella. MLB received multiple complaints against Coppolella, according to Yahoo! Sports, but has found little evidence to support a number of the accusations.
Forever Fredi
If another head has to roll then it will be Hart before it will be JS. JS doesn't have near the hand in day to day matters some here think he does. He's semi-retired at this point. Hart is not. As I understand it, the oversight of Coppy was left to Hart so if royal blood needs to be spilled, I expect it will be Hart.
That being said, I think Coppy is as high as the firings go. Hart knows way too many people and has way too many friends not to have some armor from this kind of stuff. He'll be portrayed as the "steady hand" stepping in and calming things after the GM went rogue.
Hawk (10-02-2017)
No no no no no no no.
No.
I want absolutely no part of Dayton Moore.
No.
No.
PLEASE find violations bad enough to oust John Schuerholz and John Hart as well. This organization needs to clean house in the FO, from top to bottom.
Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.
He doesn't have his hand in day to day stuff, but I'm sure he's still consulted and briefed on every big move we make.
Remember that JS wanted to make Hart the permanent GM, before he made him Interim post-Wren firing. And again when he was still Interim GM. He wasn't shy about it either of those times.
Forever Fredi
Hawk (10-02-2017)
I'm hoping this is just indicative of the team being in survival mode right now. Maybe the facts will bear out that he was on the right side of all this . . . never know about wrongdoing, and still somehow performed effectively as the head of baseball ops. I personally think there is a less than 50% chance the facts will bear both of those things out.
yes...whatever happened to supervisory responsibility
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