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    I think whoever bangs the cleats during the interviews should be fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    So you don't see any penalties coming?
    I don't think the Braves will lose Maitan. It was no secret he was going to sign with the Braves for years. There were no less than a dozen stories detailing what was going on. If MLB wanted to nail the Braves for that they would have already.

    I expect they will get a slap on the wrist for this most recent 14 year old kid because it is so public that now MLB has to do something. Maybe they can't sign any international guys for a year. And who cares? They were restricted anyways.

    Small price to pay by the FO to keep their jobs another year after failing to meet projected revenues. Coppy took the fall to buy these clowns another year. Now they can waste service clock on a few more prospects before being fired for winning 78 games next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    I think I'm going to relocate my kids travel ball team to somewhere in South America and try to get in on these kickbacks.

    If your dumb enough to try to break the rules to get a 14 year old to sign you are an idiot and deserve to be fired.

    Go to your local travel ball tourney this weekend. You can find someone that will tell you how kid x is the next harper and kid y is the next kershaw.
    I don't subscribe to that service but how the hell do you think they got such a head start on Maitan? Was that stupid? Maybe if he busts.

    This kid was the next Miguel Sano. Didn't you read that part?

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    Applying simple logic, only 1 of these 3 statements can be true:

    1. It would have been nearly impossible for Coppy to funnel the amount of cash required to bundle players or do something shady with Maitan without Hart being complicit.

    2. Hart is so daft he allowed Coppy to run a very intricate scam under his nose to pull off the alleged offenses.

    3. The FO had a lot of infighting, and this is how they got rid of Coppy to make him the scapegoat. Now they bought another year and can insert a fellow rock banger in the GM role.

    Considering Hart wasn't fired for complicit or for being incompetent, it leaves only option 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Nah. Everything Chip does is over the table.
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    The least credible thing in this entire thread is the idea that John S, whose primary duties these past years have been successfully bilking various taxpayers out of hundreds of millions of dollars all for Liberty and the Braves benefit, was in danger in being fired based on the wins and losses of the baseball team.

    He's 77 and just took his HOF victory lap. My guess is that finishing the Battery and maybe the Spring Trainihg complex were his last two projects before retirement anyway. He'd easily have survived.

    Personally I doubt John Hart sweats it too much either. Seems like his fondest wish would be to slip back into semi-retirement

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Nah. Everything Chip does is over the table.
    Solid.

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    I'll be quicker to get over this as long as Kelsey Wingert stays.

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    I sure hope they don’t take Maitan like they took Seaver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I don't think the Braves will lose Maitan. It was no secret he was going to sign with the Braves for years. There were no less than a dozen stories detailing what was going on. If MLB wanted to nail the Braves for that they would have already.

    I expect they will get a slap on the wrist for this most recent 14 year old kid because it is so public that now MLB has to do something. Maybe they can't sign any international guys for a year. And who cares? They were restricted anyways.

    Small price to pay by the FO to keep their jobs another year after failing to meet projected revenues. Coppy took the fall to buy these clowns another year. Now they can waste service clock on a few more prospects before being fired for winning 78 games next year.
    Never realized you had such a crush on Coppy.

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    This is a cluster and I hope higher heads roll. But on the bright side I don't have to listen to coppy's voice anymore. Not saying that made him a bad gm. But the first time I heard him I thought they were interviewing a WNBA player. Then saw the TV and was like what. I mean he is a short bald guy with a soft voice. Sure he has some bullying complex.
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    If this was self-reported to any degree by the Braves, I'm hoping that will be taken into consideration when penalties are levied.

    The meeting was primarily in reference to how the Braves were acquiring players in the international draft. Venezuelan shortstop prospect Kevin Maitan was discussed as well other prospects. It is alleged that Braves promised cars, flights for relatives and other benefits to compensate players, which would allow the team to remain under its total of $4.75 million bonus pool money. It would also allow the Braves to sign more players.

    All of this started from an internal report based on altercation Coppolella allegedly had during the MLB Draft this season. Details of that altercation vary, but it was reported to MLB and according to sources that spurred the investigation in the Braves international system.

    “They were running it like a college football team,” A rival scout said. “I knew if the Braves were after a guy I wasn’t going to get him because the Braves were going to do anything it took to get him.”
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    If it was self-reported, then that means Hart/JS cut a deal with MLB front office. They would Fire Coppy so MLB could make an example out of him, and not lose any of the picks already made. We'd also be banned for a year or two from International Draft and maybe lose the #8. This way Hart can come out of this untouched, since he's also hiring the next GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    If this was self-reported to any degree by the Braves, I'm hoping that will be taken into consideration when penalties are levied.



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    Whelp, that basically confirms our suspicions if that is true.

    As for the rival scouts comment, **** that guy. If he was a better scout, he'd still be alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    If this was self-reported to any degree by the Braves, I'm hoping that will be taken into consideration when penalties are levied.



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    What a disaster. I also don't think we should take solace that it was self reported. The fact that this was going on is ultimately the responsibility of the whole organization. Clean house and start a new era of braves baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Only Uggla was a trade though. And we made the playoffs 3 times under Wren. That’s a lot better than what Dayton did for almost a decade before he went to playoffs twice.
    we've been over this but like 2-4 of the major contributors of those teams came from wren himself. the rest were here already, before him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Didn't that same thing happen with Maitan though? Why is it an issue now?

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