Megathread: Braves lose Maitan, Bae and 10+ plus International Sanctions.

[Hudson2]

As long as we keep the 8th pick, Maitan, and Contreras then i don’t care.

[CrimsonCowboy]

It just seems unavoidable. Looks like Maitan will no longer be a Brave farmhand within a week or two.

[Hudson2]

We gave Maitan over 4 million dollars. That’s a lot bigger deal then what Boston gave up. If they take him then Manfred went way overboard bc he wasn’t bundled at all.

[Enscheff]

Just get this over with. Stop the madness, but it does sound like Enscheff is going to be wrong, but it seems more of making an example than actual extremely bad stuff. Of course, an Atlanta/Georgia sports team is made an example of something that likely always happens. It just has to be us. It really sucks.

What exactly was I wrong about? This penalty won't be any worse than the Red Sox were hit with, and they didn't fire the GM. The Cards lost a high draft pick, and didn't fire anyone. Preller was suspended, and still kept his job.

[UNCBlue012]

It just seems unavoidable. Looks like Maitan will no longer be a Brave farmhand within a week or two.

I honestly think we lose him as well. It would really, really suck to see him cranking 30 home runs a year for a World Series-winning team.

[NYCBrave]

We gave Maitan over 4 million dollars. That’s a lot bigger deal then what Boston gave up. If they take him then Manfred went way overboard bc he wasn’t bundled at all.

So in addition to losing Maitain, we'd also lose the 4 mil we paid him, and get additional fines? That seems extremely egregious.

[GeorgiaGirl]

What exactly was I wrong about? This penalty won't be any worse than the Red Sox were hit with, and they didn't fire the GM. The Cards lost a high draft pick, and didn't fire anyone. Preller was suspended, and still kept his job.

It sounds like at least two high level Latin prospects are gone. That's worse. At least two and a 2-3 year complete ban from Latin operations.

[Super]

What exactly was I wrong about? This penalty won't be any worse than the Red Sox were hit with, and they didn't fire the GM. The Cards lost a high draft pick, and didn't fire anyone. Preller was suspended, and still kept his job.

If the Braves lose Maitan it's more severe than all the other penalties combined.

[striker42]

If MLB was actually going to treat the Braves fairly, the penalty would not be that harsh. The Braves have cooperated with the investigation and actually fired the guys responsible. Never before have we seen a GM fired over Latin America signing violations.

If MLB was smart, in their statement about the sanctions they would mention how firing the individuals responsible was viewed very favorably in terms of the sanctions imposed. This more than anything would deter GMs from breaking the rules. If they knew their team could escape a lot of punishment by throwing them to the wolves, they might think twice before breaking too many rules.

A smart, fair MLB would account for the Coppy firing, declare any of the bundled players FAs (not guys like Maitan or Bae), suspend the Braves from Latin America for 6 months (year tops), and levy a small fine.

However, I don't expect MLB to be smart or fair. I think you have powerful, arrogant people who feel insulted by the Braves disregard for their rules and they want to make an example out of the Braves.

I expect we'll end up losing Maitan and more. The loss of draft picks wouldn't shock me either. I expect the suspension from international signings to be ridiculously long and I expect the fine to be absurdly large.

If I'm McGurick, I make sure the commissioner remembers the works for the owners. I'd let him know that I'd accept a fair punishment but if MLB tries to make an example of the Braves, I'd make his life very unpleasant. That I'd lead a campaign to have him fired. I'd agree to anything other teams wanted to get their support.

[Tapate50]

Coppy is the gift that keeps on giving.

[nsacpi]

Coppy is the gift that keeps on giving.

He had two of the best mentors in the business.

[Hudson2]

So in addition to losing Maitain, we'd also lose the 4 mil we paid him, and get additional fines? That seems extremely egregious.

Yep. That’s why it’s critical to change the system, bc what stops Maitan and his people from leaking stuff to get paid twice?

[Tapate50]

He had two of the best mentors in the business.

Who never really had anything like this happen before.

[bravesfanMatt]

Yep. That’s why it’s critical to change the system, bc what stops Maitan and his people from leaking stuff to get paid twice?

What stops a FO from following the rules.

I mean we are upset about the penalties, but if this was the Nationals, we would be calling them cheaters and demanding for their heads. Personally, it sucks ass, but if we cheated and did so beyond a hand shake, then perhaps we bend over and just take our just due.

[mqt]

What stops a FO from following the rules.

I mean we are upset about the penalties, but if this was the Nationals, we would be calling them cheaters and demanding for their heads. Personally, it sucks ass, but if we cheated and did so beyond a hand shake, then perhaps we bend over and just take our just due.

No, if it were the Nationals, we'd think nothing because they're also making agreements with underage prospects, as is everyone.

[Enscheff]

It sounds like at least two high level Latin prospects are gone. That's worse. At least two and a 2-3 year complete ban from Latin operations.

Absolutely, but where are those rumors coming from?

[Enscheff]

If MLB was actually going to treat the Braves fairly, the penalty would not be that harsh. The Braves have cooperated with the investigation and actually fired the guys responsible. Never before have we seen a GM fired over Latin America signing violations.

If MLB was smart, in their statement about the sanctions they would mention how firing the individuals responsible was viewed very favorably in terms of the sanctions imposed. This more than anything would deter GMs from breaking the rules. If they knew their team could escape a lot of punishment by throwing them to the wolves, they might think twice before breaking too many rules.

A smart, fair MLB would account for the Coppy firing, declare any of the bundled players FAs (not guys like Maitan or Bae), suspend the Braves from Latin America for 6 months (year tops), and levy a small fine.

However, I don't expect MLB to be smart or fair. I think you have powerful, arrogant people who feel insulted by the Braves disregard for their rules and they want to make an example out of the Braves.

I expect we'll end up losing Maitan and more. The loss of draft picks wouldn't shock me either. I expect the suspension from international signings to be ridiculously long and I expect the fine to be absurdly large.

If I'm McGurick, I make sure the commissioner remembers the works for the owners. I'd let him know that I'd accept a fair punishment but if MLB tries to make an example of the Braves, I'd make his life very unpleasant. That I'd lead a campaign to have him fired. I'd agree to anything other teams wanted to get their support.

If the Braves get slammed as bad as some fear, I hope the Braves blow the roof off all shady deals made by all MLB teams and drag them all down.

[Knucksie]

The usual panic sets in before all the facts are known.

[Deester11]

The usual panic sets in before all the facts are known.

I just want to know about the other 15 teams also under investigation.

[Enscheff]

I just want to know about the other 15 teams also under investigation.

Pirates fired their international guy for taking kick backs:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/...stigation.html

Looks like the punishment will be levied on that guy only, not the Pirates organization.