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Thread: Megathread: Braves lose Maitan, Bae and 10+ plus International Sanctions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Source? Shanks didn’t put this on Twitter so I’m curious where you heard this supposed rumor
    I think the bigger question is why is he listening to Bill Shanks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Rumor from Shanks is this: The punishment is a 2 year international ban then a 50% reduction in international spending for 5 years. Says Braves keep Maitan.
    5 years surprises me, but it’s pretty much what I expected.

    If this is true MLB clearly prefers to punish the Braves without dumping a bunch of new FAs on the market and setting that precedent.
    Last edited by Enscheff; 11-18-2017 at 01:34 PM.

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    Damn. Seven total years? If true, I'm happy to not lose anyone, but that's a little much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If this is true MLB clearly prefers to punish the Braves without dumping a bunch of new FAs on the market and setting that precedent.
    As a baseball fan, I'm glad the commissioner is smart enough not to go down that road.

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    I’m guessing that it’s 5 not 7 years. Still this is really excessive. International signings have always been the Wild West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Source? Shanks didn’t put this on Twitter so I’m curious where you heard this supposed rumor
    Braves are not losing Kevin maitan but your going to wish they had. Based on what bill shanks just read on his program MLB will violate their collective bargaining agreement if they make maitan a free agent. However the penalty might be a two year ban on signing any international free agent plus 5 years at only 50% of money allowed for all teams to spend

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/outf...1508186425104/

    Not sure how true it is since it's facebook. But there.

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    the key part is we keep Bae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Braves are not losing Kevin maitan but your going to wish they had. Based on what bill shanks just read on his program MLB will violate their collective bargaining agreement if they make maitan a free agent. However the penalty might be a two year ban on signing any international free agent plus 5 years at only 50% of money allowed for all teams to spend

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/outf...1508186425104/

    Not sure how true it is since it's facebook. But there.
    It's based on a faulty premise. It would absolutely not violate the CBA for them to declare our contract with Maitan invalid if we agreed to it when he was underage. We quite obviously did, so who the **** knows?

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    It’s not really a contract if it’s not enforceable. If the contract was signed and became valid at 16 it wasn’t a contract before then regardless of any handshake agreement before then.

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    From Gammons:

    When the sanctions against the Braves are revealed and they lose some international signings, one member of the organization who had nothing to do with the violations says that an example is that one Asian infielder that was signed got a $300,000 bonus that kept them within the allotment borders, but he was promised another $300,000 in 2018 that would have been paid under the table. They also expect to lose infielder Kevin Maitan, who received $5M, but the new order Braves are not concerned, feeling Maitan was no worth the money or the hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    From Gammons:

    When the sanctions against the Braves are revealed and they lose some international signings, one member of the organization who had nothing to do with the violations says that an example is that one Asian infielder that was signed got a $300,000 bonus that kept them within the allotment borders, but he was promised another $300,000 in 2018 that would have been paid under the table. They also expect to lose infielder Kevin Maitan, who received $5M, but the new order Braves are not concerned, feeling Maitan was no worth the money or the hype.
    By “New Order Braves” I guess he means AA?

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    The reports from Shanks and Gammons are not even in the same universe. Not sure what to believe. Not sure BS is wrong here. (Didn't think I'd say that.)

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    sounds like we might lose Bae
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    From Gammons:

    When the sanctions against the Braves are revealed and they lose some international signings, one member of the organization who had nothing to do with the violations says that an example is that one Asian infielder that was signed got a $300,000 bonus that kept them within the allotment borders, but he was promised another $300,000 in 2018 that would have been paid under the table. They also expect to lose infielder Kevin Maitan, who received $5M, but the new order Braves are not concerned, feeling Maitan was no worth the money or the hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian22 View Post
    The reports from Shanks and Gammons are not even in the same universe. Not sure what to believe. Not sure BS is wrong here. (Didn't think I'd say that.)
    Shanks the day before AA was hired: “The Braves have not interviewed anyone for GM”

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    Trust me, I know. Maybe it's because of the idea of violating the CBA. Maybe it's wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    By “New Order Braves” I guess he means AA?
    I think he means Emperor Snope

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    sounds like we might lose Bae

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