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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    His first article was already nearly unreadable. A rambling mess where he tries to back the "scoutheads" without actually coming out and saying it.

    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...-stats-debate/

    It's not hard to imagine he was basically detailing the conflicts in the Braves FO between the dorks and dinosaurs. The best thing that came out this offseason was cleaning house in the Braves FO.
    You are a better man than me to read that whole article

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    His first article was already nearly unreadable. A rambling mess where he tries to back the "scoutheads" without actually coming out and saying it.

    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...-stats-debate/

    It's not hard to imagine he was basically detailing the conflicts in the Braves FO between the dorks and dinosaurs. The best thing that came out this offseason was cleaning house in the Braves FO.
    That article was poorly written. It seemed like Kiley wrote that piece by taking a unanimously agreed upon premise ("scouts and stats are both good") and seemed to brainstorm anecdotes as he went along to support that position.

    Overall, its hard to argue against any one thing in that article, but it was largely forgettable. I have always like Kiley, especially when he's on Cistulli's podcast as he has more of a flair for entertainment than Longenhangen. I would simply prefer he write these type of pieces moving forward where he elaborated more on the anecdotes he shared and provide specific industry examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    You are a better man than me to read that whole article
    Truth be told, I couldn’t make it all the way through haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Truth be told, I couldn’t make it all the way through haha.
    Eric said in his chat that he had some input into that article as well. I have to believe that his input was minimal lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Eric said in his chat that he had some input into that article as well. I have to believe that his input was minimal lol
    I noticed he stuck (but mostly him) in the comment.

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    Cole to Astros is "imminent".
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Cole to Astros is "imminent".
    They are going to be a tough team to beat next year with that line up returning mostly in tact and a better rotation
    Get off my lawn!

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    Return for Cole not yet known according to Morosi, but deal is agreed to.

    Would be interested to find out if AA would have interest in Marte if the Pirates move him. Would certainly expect you could get him for far less than a Yelich-like return.
    Last edited by clvclv; 01-10-2018 at 12:25 PM.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

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    Interesting to see cole in the AL. His homers spiked last year. And it is not hard to hit them out in Houston. But if healthy he is a good 3 win pitcher.
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    Good deal for the Astros if they held onto Tucker and Whitley. Considering the Yankees were willing to give up Frazier for Cole, it would make sense that the Astros had to step up with one of those 2 guys to beat out the Yankees offer...or maybe the Pirates just didn't like Frazier like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Good deal for the Astros if they held onto Tucker and Whitley. Considering the Yankees were willing to give up Frazier for Cole, it would make sense that the Astros had to step up with one of those 2 guys to beat out the Yankees offer...or maybe the Pirates just didn't like Frazier like me.
    I'm thinking they would have had to give up Tucker. If they didn't give up Tucker or Whitley they did a great job considering what the Yankees were supposedly offering.

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    Dave Cameron leaving FG to lead up the Padres R&D department for player development. Damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Dave Cameron leaving FG to lead up the Padres R&D department for player development. Damn.
    you gonna become a Padres fan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    you gonna become a Padres fan?
    Not a fan of Preller...at all.

    Now we get to read stupid articles on FG like the most recent one from Meg Rowley about putting a penalty box in baseball, or the rambling nonsense from Kiley about scouts vs stats. Longenhagen is so slow putting out the prospect updates it smells of his attention being elsewhere.

    I think we are seeing the end of the best days at FG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    Looks like Morosi needs to dump one of his sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Not a fan of Preller...at all.

    Now we get to read stupid articles on FG like the most recent one from Meg Rowley about putting a penalty box in baseball, or the rambling nonsense from Kiley about scouts vs stats. Longenhagen is so slow putting out the prospect updates it smells of his attention being elsewhere.

    I think we are seeing the end of the best days at FG.
    I do like Sawchick and Sullivan has been the best writer at FG for a few years now (IMO) . I would assume Sullivan takes up Cameron's mantle as Editor-in-Chief.

    I would add that FG has increased its focus on podcasts in recent years and they have hired/partnered with some brilliant writers outside of the FG ecosystem - like Ben Lindbergh. I imagine that is the direction they will shift focus to moving forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I do like Sawchick and Sullivan has been the best writer at FG for a few years now (IMO) . I would assume Sullivan takes up Cameron's mantle as Editor-in-Chief.

    I would add that FG has increased its focus on podcasts in recent years and they have hired/partnered with some brilliant writers outside of the FG ecosystem - like Ben Lindbergh. I imagine that is the direction they will shift focus to moving forward.
    I didn't realize Sawchik was full time with Fangraphs. Last I had really known he was on the Pirates beat. He covered Clemson for the Charleston paper for a few years is the only reason I vaguely have followed him. I guess he must be from Cleveland area since he is apparently doing semi-regular work on that beat for the Athletic.

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