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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Perhaps those women who stayed silent for years acted in what they perceived to be their self-interest, which, if I've read the sacred texts of libertarianism correctly, is the correct course of action.
    Aww man. You got me!

    The correct course of action for libertarianism is protecting liberty... and if a celebrity knowingly lets a rapist run rampant on innocent people.. then I'm not that interested in her "me too" story 20 years later after a long cohort of women beat her to the punch

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    Bezos may be in some trouble soon. How many more of the elites will be uncovered in this mess.

    Nbc news has proven they are not a legitimate news organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Bezos may be in some trouble soon. How many more of the elites will be uncovered in this mess.

    Nbc news has proven they are not a legitimate news organization.
    NBC handled this poorly, no doubt. Fox News employed and was run by their versions of Weinstein, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    NBC handled this poorly, no doubt. Fox News employed and was run by their versions of Weinstein, though.
    What ailes did was definitely a different kind of evil. Howecer, the superession of information goes against the very fabric that is media. Nbc doing this for unsavory means brings the whole operation into question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Because your first move was to mention 3 institutions that are stock villains for the right, which is essentially a political judgement, instead of taking a more expansive structural view of the problem, which would seem to be more thoughtful and humane.

    Of course I don't doubt that what you say is true, but it's only a corner of the picture. What touched a nerve was the apparent reflexiveness and myopia of your take.
    How is mentioning the three centers of political, financial, and entertainment myopic? I don't get you sometimes Julio. Really don't. Just think you like to argue. Sure we can expand bad-sinful-wicked behavior to everywhere and in the hearts of everyone. We can have that discussion. I'm good with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Maybe because you are quiet when it's another clergy member who's been found out. The patriarchal Christian hierarchy, which subordinates all and gives complete power and authority to the man at the top is the root cause.
    Bull****e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    How is mentioning the three centers of political, financial, and entertainment myopic? I don't get you sometimes Julio. Really don't. Just think you like to argue. Sure we can expand bad-sinful-wicked behavior to everywhere and in the hearts of everyone. We can have that discussion. I'm good with it.
    Unfortunately I think Trump derangement syndrome has gotten Julio too

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What ailes did was definitely a different kind of evil. Howecer, the superession of information goes against the very fabric that is media. Nbc doing this for unsavory means brings the whole operation into question.
    Weinstein and Alles are the exact kind of predator, imo. They used their positions to take advantage of powerless women who normally wouldn't give them a second glance.

    What did NBC do "for unsavory means"? They passed on a news story that was gonna go out anyway? And this brings their whole operation into question? LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Unfortunately I think Trump derangement syndrome has gotten Julio too

    If they want me to include the Vatican, I'll be happy to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Weinstein and Alles are the exact kind of predator, imo. They used their positions to take advantage of powerless women who normally wouldn't give them a second glance.

    What did NBC do "for unsavory means"? They passed on a news story that was gonna go out anyway? And this brings their whole operation into question? LMAO
    You actually wrote that last paragraph and don't believe it does?

    What is the purpose of a news organization?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What ailes did was definitely a different kind of evil. Howecer, the superession of information goes against the very fabric that is media. Nbc doing this for unsavory means brings the whole operation into question.
    Stop using the word "evil". This is just typical bullying that's been going on forever and is still going on. It's repulsive but nothing is more human.
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    thethe, feel free to use the word evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    thethe, feel free to use the word evil.
    Evil is real. The world is fallen.

    This is coming from someone who hasn't stepped in a synagogue since I was Bar Mitzvah ed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Evil is real. The world is fallen.

    This is coming from someone who hasn't stepped in a synagogue since I was Bar Mitzvah ed.

    Yep, and everyone believes that it is real even if they deny it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    thethe, feel free to use the word evil.
    LOL.

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    Is there any kind of women’s march planned in Hollywood to protest the rampant sexual harassment that happens there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Is there any kind of women’s march planned in Hollywood to protest the rampant sexual harassment that happens there?
    They are probably planning a second "day without women" work day because nobody noticed their absence at the first one

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    This is a bit much. Some of the best people in my company are women. They are driven and brilliant. We are actually losing one soon which is going to be a massive loss to the department.

    I'm absolutely fine with women in the workforce in any capacity. I can simultaneously be for this while still acknowledging that men and woman are completely different and we should embrace that as opposed to destroying that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Kate Beckinsale had no reason to hide this. She is a star and her career was not threatened. Where was she the last 5 years? When Macfarlane made his joke, where was Kate's instagram story?

    If you're horrified by the actions, then do something about it
    Can I ask, what does it matter? She was still a victim of sexual harassment at the very least (well taking her at her word). Only about 30 % of Sexual Harassment victims actual report it, which falls in line with the percentages of sexual assault victims as well. It's sad and may be even frustrating, but people like you berating her for it only compounds the issue.

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