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    The data is interesting. I have the 150 pitches on a spreadsheet. Immediately noticed about 9 pitches that were marked as FF and clocked at 85ish. Same as his change.
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    Acuna/Riley go back to back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    The data is interesting. I have the 150 pitches on a spreadsheet. Immediately noticed about 9 pitches that were marked as FF and clocked at 85ish. Same as his change.
    Remove them. His FF is now 93.7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Remove them. His FF is now 93.7?
    Here is a list of all his FF and the speed and how many times he hit that speed.

    85.3 MPH 2
    85.4 MPH 1
    85.5 MPH 1
    85.6 MPH 1
    85.8 MPH 1
    85.9 MPH 1
    86.1 MPH 1
    86.3 MPH 1
    86.5 MPH 1
    91.5 MPH 1
    92.0 MPH 1
    92.1 MPH 1
    92.2 MPH 1
    92.3 MPH 1
    92.4 MPH 1
    92.5 MPH 2
    92.6 MPH 1
    92.7 MPH 1
    92.8 MPH 4
    93.0 MPH 3
    93.1 MPH 4
    93.2 MPH 3
    93.3 MPH 1
    93.5 MPH 3
    93.6 MPH 2
    93.7 MPH 2
    93.8 MPH 1
    94.0 MPH 3
    94.1 MPH 6
    94.2 MPH 2
    94.3 MPH 4
    94.4 MPH 2
    94.5 MPH 1
    94.7 MPH 1
    94.8 MPH 3
    94.9 MPH 4
    95.1 MPH 1
    95.2 MPH 2
    95.3 MPH 3
    95.4 MPH 1
    95.5 MPH 3
    95.6 MPH 5
    95.7 MPH 2
    95.8 MPH 3
    96.2 MPH 2
    96.3 MPH 2
    96.4 MPH 2
    97.1 MPH 2
    97.5 MPH 1
    97.6 MPH 1


    That is 99 pitches. If you throw out his 10 pitches that were in the mid 80's (safely assuming they were not FF or speed recorded inaccurately) That leaves 89 FF that averaged 94.4. He threw in the 93's 19 times, 94's 26 times, 95's 20 times. I don't have the counts on my sheet, but I did notice several of his 92's and 93's were in hitter counts (2-0, 2-1)..

    I would not say he is a 96 pitcher, but would say he is comfortably hitting 94 -95 in Arizona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I agree that the AFL doesn't provide much in terms of predictive value, but if A. Jackson could do a reasonable imitation of someone like Hunter Renfroe and Riley be a RHH version of Greg Bird, all would not be lost. I'm good at managing expectations. Jackson and Riley are both young with some things they obviously need to clean up in their games.
    I don’t know. It seems pretty bad that our prospects are doing well in a prospect league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I don’t know. It seems pretty bad that our prospects are doing well in a prospect league.
    Agreed. And the incompetent FO is just leaving them there, dominating, like idiots. Unreal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Here is a list of all his FF and the speed and how many times he hit that speed.

    85.3 MPH 2
    85.4 MPH 1
    85.5 MPH 1
    85.6 MPH 1
    85.8 MPH 1
    85.9 MPH 1
    86.1 MPH 1
    86.3 MPH 1
    86.5 MPH 1
    91.5 MPH 1
    92.0 MPH 1
    92.1 MPH 1
    92.2 MPH 1
    92.3 MPH 1
    92.4 MPH 1
    92.5 MPH 2
    92.6 MPH 1
    92.7 MPH 1
    92.8 MPH 4
    93.0 MPH 3
    93.1 MPH 4
    93.2 MPH 3
    93.3 MPH 1
    93.5 MPH 3
    93.6 MPH 2
    93.7 MPH 2
    93.8 MPH 1
    94.0 MPH 3
    94.1 MPH 6
    94.2 MPH 2
    94.3 MPH 4
    94.4 MPH 2
    94.5 MPH 1
    94.7 MPH 1
    94.8 MPH 3
    94.9 MPH 4
    95.1 MPH 1
    95.2 MPH 2
    95.3 MPH 3
    95.4 MPH 1
    95.5 MPH 3
    95.6 MPH 5
    95.7 MPH 2
    95.8 MPH 3
    96.2 MPH 2
    96.3 MPH 2
    96.4 MPH 2
    97.1 MPH 2
    97.5 MPH 1
    97.6 MPH 1


    That is 99 pitches. If you throw out his 10 pitches that were in the mid 80's (safely assuming they were not FF or speed recorded inaccurately) That leaves 89 FF that averaged 94.4. He threw in the 93's 19 times, 94's 26 times, 95's 20 times. I don't have the counts on my sheet, but I did notice several of his 92's and 93's were in hitter counts (2-0, 2-1)..

    I would not say he is a 96 pitcher, but would say he is comfortably hitting 94 -95 in Arizona.
    Such a pozzie... if you can’t see those mid-to-upper 80s were the best fried had then you’re just another dumb southerner.

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    Acuna, Riley, and Touki named to Fall-Stars roster. Guessing Fried left off because he's close to IP limit. No clue why A-Jax isn't on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Here is a list of all his FF and the speed and how many times he hit that speed.

    85.3 MPH 2
    85.4 MPH 1
    85.5 MPH 1
    85.6 MPH 1
    85.8 MPH 1
    85.9 MPH 1
    86.1 MPH 1
    86.3 MPH 1
    86.5 MPH 1
    91.5 MPH 1
    92.0 MPH 1
    92.1 MPH 1
    92.2 MPH 1
    92.3 MPH 1
    92.4 MPH 1
    92.5 MPH 2
    92.6 MPH 1
    92.7 MPH 1
    92.8 MPH 4
    93.0 MPH 3
    93.1 MPH 4
    93.2 MPH 3
    93.3 MPH 1
    93.5 MPH 3
    93.6 MPH 2
    93.7 MPH 2
    93.8 MPH 1
    94.0 MPH 3
    94.1 MPH 6
    94.2 MPH 2
    94.3 MPH 4
    94.4 MPH 2
    94.5 MPH 1
    94.7 MPH 1
    94.8 MPH 3
    94.9 MPH 4
    95.1 MPH 1
    95.2 MPH 2
    95.3 MPH 3
    95.4 MPH 1
    95.5 MPH 3
    95.6 MPH 5
    95.7 MPH 2
    95.8 MPH 3
    96.2 MPH 2
    96.3 MPH 2
    96.4 MPH 2
    97.1 MPH 2
    97.5 MPH 1
    97.6 MPH 1


    That is 99 pitches. If you throw out his 10 pitches that were in the mid 80's (safely assuming they were not FF or speed recorded inaccurately) That leaves 89 FF that averaged 94.4. He threw in the 93's 19 times, 94's 26 times, 95's 20 times. I don't have the counts on my sheet, but I did notice several of his 92's and 93's were in hitter counts (2-0, 2-1)..

    I would not say he is a 96 pitcher, but would say he is comfortably hitting 94 -95 in Arizona.
    So we are going to assume that the pitches at 85-87 were errors, and none of the higher velocity ones were errors?

    Seems...pozzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    So we are going to assume that the pitches at 85-87 were errors, and none of the higher velocity ones were errors?

    Seems...pozzy.
    No, I assume that a guy who throws a change up harder than those FF speeds is not throwing a FF that slow. I personally think this was data entry error or the pitch was a change that didn't drop much so it was mistaken for a FF. But if you want to think a guy is throwing a fastball at 85 and 86, but not 87,88,89, or 90.. all the while throwing Changes at 83- 86, then go for it. I am not personally.
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    Acuna 0-4 with 2 Ks

    Riley 2-4 with 2 2bs and a run scored

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    No, I assume that a guy who throws a change up harder than those FF speeds is not throwing a FF that slow. I personally think this was data entry error or the pitch was a change that didn't drop much so it was mistaken for a FF. But if you want to think a guy is throwing a fastball at 85 and 86, but not 87,88,89, or 90.. all the while throwing Changes at 83- 86, then go for it. I am not personally.
    Seems .... logical

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    No, I assume that a guy who throws a change up harder than those FF speeds is not throwing a FF that slow. I personally think this was data entry error or the pitch was a change that didn't drop much so it was mistaken for a FF. But if you want to think a guy is throwing a fastball at 85 and 86, but not 87,88,89, or 90.. all the while throwing Changes at 83- 86, then go for it. I am not personally.
    I'm mostly just giving you ****.

    Fried's velocity ticking up 1 MPH isn't going to fix the problem with his FA though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
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    Acuna 0-4 with 2 Ks

    Riley 2-4 with 2 2bs and a run scored
    Riley is killing it. He now leads the league with 1.235 ops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I'm mostly just giving you ****.

    Fried's velocity ticking up 1 MPH isn't going to fix the problem with his FA though.
    I agree. I also think ticking up could be the dryer air out west. It is hot in ATL.. but humidity is a bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Riley is killing it. He now leads the league with 1.235 ops
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    Riley has consistently improved each year as people keep writing him off and has up’d his game with each level of competition. He is barely older than Acuna. To me this is how you want a prospect to progress....gradual steady growth, while not to grow too fast in order to get enough Minor league time in. I’m not sure what else you could realistically ask from a 20 year old not named Acuna??

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    Nov 3:

    Fried 4 IP, 4 ER, 2 BB, 6 K

    Acuna 1-4 HR
    Riley 0-4 2K
    Jackson 0-4

    Jackson is slumping and down to 12th in OPS.

    Riley leading the AFL in OPS despite 12 Ks in 46 ABs due to a BABIP of .367.

    Acuna is still rocking a .400 BABIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Nov 3:

    Fried 4 IP, 4 ER, 2 BB, 6 K

    Acuna 1-4 HR
    Riley 0-4 2K
    Jackson 0-4

    Jackson is slumping and down to 12th in OPS.

    Riley leading the AFL in OPS despite 12 Ks in 46 ABs due to a BABIP of .367.

    Acuna is still rocking a .400 BABIP.
    With acuna being a speedster, what’s a reasonable babip for him in milb? Obviously Riley’s is high

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    With acuna being a speedster, what’s a reasonable babip for him in milb? Obviously Riley’s is high
    Maintaining a high BABIP has more to do with the quality of contact a hitter makes than their speed.

    Here's a list of the highest BABIP sustained over the last 3 seasons by qualified hitters:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ers=0&sort=3,d

    .340-.350 is probably the highest we could reasonably expect.

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