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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I think that every dime that is donated to the advancement of any political cause should be 100% transparent. No dark money, no Super-PACs, no ambiguity. That seems like a reasonable position.
    Reasonable and obvious. I'd also like to take a look at bundling and, truthfully, wouldn't be against limiting campaign donations exclusively to individuals and lowering the cap to something like $500 per person.

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    The optics of this look bad. How can either Obama/HRC come out looking good from this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The optics of this look bad. How can either Obama/HRC come out looking good from this?
    I guess Obama won’t get re-elected for a third term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    I guess Obama won’t get re-elected for a third term.
    Obama still wields a lot of power. He is a great politician and is relatively young. For the dems sake you need that to stay in tact.

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    I haven't seen much new, but I did see that Bloomberg had a piece on this today. I think Fox ran it yesterday. I'm very curious to see if it gains enough momentum to get more journalists digging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    I guess Obama won’t get re-elected for a third term.
    dude, this is the real scandal man

    no time for jokes or facts
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    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ussian-nuclear

    Now why would Bill request a meeting with high profile russians right before a vote?

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    What was on Hillary emails that were deleted? How about the phones she destroyed. Isn't this what we do now? Connect the dots without hard evidence?

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    lol
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    GAG order on FBI informant released today. Will testify and describe the bribery and real Russia collusion scandal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What was on Hillary emails that were deleted? How about the phones she destroyed. Isn't this what we do now? Connect the dots without hard evidence?
    why? Path to impeachment
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    why? Path to impeachment
    No - Jail where the Clintons belong.
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    Looking at the links you provided I see no reference to any laws broken or even fudged ---
    Can you enlighten ?
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    Benefitting handsomely at the same time uranium one was signed is treasonous and it will come out in full. Then the avalanche will follow on all the crimes committed as detailed in Clinton cash

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    I am reminded of the Dylan song Hurricane. A song about the boxer who was railroaded because of his color and outspoken nature. Circa early 60's
    about the middle of the song he wrote:

    "they got him for conspiracy
    but they never said who with "

    That is the way these HRC accusations and investigations go.
    Like her or not, nothing ever amounts to anything beyond feeble attempts to embarrass.

    /there are no charges,illegalities in these accusations.
    Any of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I am reminded of the Dylan song Hurricane. A song about the boxer who was railroaded because of his color and outspoken nature. Circa early 60's
    about the middle of the song he wrote:

    "they got him for conspiracy
    but they never said who with "

    That is the way these HRC accusations and investigations go.
    Like her or not, nothing ever amounts to anything beyond feeble attempts to embarrass.

    /there are no charges,illegalities in these accusations.
    Any of them
    That's what happens when the people who are about to prosecute against the Clintons 'commit suicide'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Benefitting handsomely at the same time uranium one was signed is treasonous and it will come out in full. Then the avalanche will follow on all the crimes committed as detailed in Clinton cash
    What is the legal basis of an investigation ?

    Not to beat an impreachment drum here --- the Trump investigations center around Obstruction of Justice, Money laudering, and colluding with a foreign interest. etc etc etc
    Those are , if proven to be true, crimes.

    What besides some ambiguous "benefiting handsomely" is the basis of these investigations and to what end ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    That's what happens when the people who are about to prosecute against the Clintons 'commit suicide'.
    30 years y'all been saying this and it is baseless
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Thethe and this thread, lol
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    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked Panetta how it was possible that neither “the chair of the DNC and the Clinton campaign” knew about payments for the dossier.

    “Well, it’s obviously something that the Intelligence Committee is going to have to look at,” Panetta said. “You know, knowing presidential campaigns, they’re big operations and somehow the left hand may not know what the right hand is doing. And that could be the case here.”

    Panetta continued, “I really do think that the committee is going to have to get into this, determine just exactly what happened. Who knew what and when?”

    Blitzer followed up by asking Panetta why Clinton campaign attorney Marc Elias didn’t tell Clinton campaign chair, John Podesta, they had paid for the dossier.

    Elias was the lawyer was represented the Clinton campaign and DNC, during the election and is alleged to have paid Fusion GPS for the Trump dossier.

    “Well, it certainly makes the situation very awkward,” Panetta said. “If you’re testifying and saying you have no knowledge, and the attorney sitting next to you is one of those that knew what was involved here, I think it does raise an issue that the committee is going to have to look at and determine just exactly who knew what.”


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