Surprise 6, Peoria 3
Jared James 0-5, 2 K
Ronald Acuna 0-3, BB, K, HBP, E
Austin Riley 1-5, 2B, K, E
Alex Jackson 0-2, K, HBP
Jackson left game for pinch-runner after being HBP. injury not known
Surprise 6, Peoria 3
Jared James 0-5, 2 K
Ronald Acuna 0-3, BB, K, HBP, E
Austin Riley 1-5, 2B, K, E
Alex Jackson 0-2, K, HBP
Jackson left game for pinch-runner after being HBP. injury not known
4 errors in 8 games for Riley. He's looking smooth over there and playing plus defense according to BA.
Of all people, you know errors <> defensive ability.
footwork, arm strength, range, reflex, route, instincts, etc are all part of the equation. a few silly errors doesn't make him a bad defender just like going 25 games without an error doesn't makes him a good defender. Stop being silly.
Coppy
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
I have no clue what type of defender he is. But if scout(s) say he looks good over there, then I will take that over a few bad games. I have a feeling he is avg to below avg defender, but I really don't know because I haven't seen him nor have I read much scouting on him. Errors could be caused by a lot of different factors. Hell, a good 1B saves a lot of errors alone.
Coppy
In 2015, he had 16 errors in 53 games (.302)
In 2016, he had 30 errors in 122 games (.246)
In 2017, he had 20 errors in 127 games (.157)
I think this shows a positive trend and is a much better representation of his error rate than 8 games, but hey, you and enscheff can continue to go full freak out
Its true that fielding % and errors are a terrible way to judge defense generally, but I think Enscheff has a point. If Riley was known for his excellent range, footwork, instinct, and reflexes then the errors wouldn't be a big deal. Since all of these things have been heavily scrutinized in Riley's defense, then he HAS to be sure handed to even come close to competence. The 4 errors in 8 games calls that into question as well.
clvclv (10-31-2017)
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
This is a bit of a strawman. I wasn't using an 8 game sample size to illustrate he is poor defender. I was saying that, given the concerns about his range, reaction, etc., that he has to be sure handed in order to be a competent defensive 3rd baseman, and even then he would be below average. And this "positive" trend that you spoke of led to a Fielding % of .939, which is definitely not a positive in any way. Granted fielding position is a poor measurement. The problem is that even the better measurements aren't super high on Riley's defense. So, yeah, 4 errors in 8 games is not a positive sign.
To put a .939 fielding % into perspective, that is the same as Nick Castellanos' in his time at 3rd base this past season. In previous seasons his was a good bit better than .939, but he was still a pretty awful defender. Other than what scouts say using the "eye test", there is really not a whole lot to indicate Riley will be anything but a poor defensive 3rd baseman without some significant improvements.
I think it’s pretty relevant. If a good percentage are throwing, then there’s not really any reason to worry considering his arm is considered great.
ETA... pretty crazy you and enscheff consider this awful, but haven’t seen him at all out there. The reports from the ones that have seen him were good
Last edited by msstate7; 10-31-2017 at 11:51 AM.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg