Discussion of Braves 2018 Offseason plans

[Hawk]

I’m sure jpx ****s a lot of imaginary mothers.

JP strikes me as a friend of the furries.

[Hawk]

Hawk, choose a robe, not the Bijan, and meet me in the living room.

[zitothebrave]

JP strikes me as a friend of the furries.

[jpx7]

I’m sure jpx ****s a lot of imaginary mothers.

I like to prophylactically keep my partners out of the family way—so you(we?) aren’t wrong on that score.

[jpx7]

JP strikes me as a friend of the furries.

Allurements cover nothing but the charnel-house within.

[Super]

Super doesn't know much about baseball or politics but he is right about one thing: Your lack of emotional intelligence and self-awareness is astounding.

Oh yeah? Tell me what I've been so egregiously wrong about regarding baseball, or point out my absurd opinions? I've always found you a little simple-minded, but you know.

[CyYoung31]

Guys, relax. If everyone was 100% right about everything all of the time, everyone would be me.

[Super]

Guys, relax. If everyone was 100% right about everything all of the time, everyone would be me.

if he's gonna randomly throw shade, especially about baseball, i wanna know why.

[nsacpi]

if he's gonna randomly throw shade, especially about baseball, i wanna know why.

Sav needs to appoint a special prosecutor

[Super]

Sav needs to appoint a special prosecutor

this won't work. because anyone who disagrees with me or finds out anything is a deep chop country stooge.

[nsacpi]

this won't work. because anyone who disagrees with me or finds out anything is a deep chop country stooge.

deep south country stooge

[thethe]

https://www.myajc.com/sports/braves-...mpression=true

Not sure the best place to put this but some good news

[bravesfanMatt]

https://www.myajc.com/sports/braves-...mpression=true

Not sure the best place to put this but some good news

Sounds like the liberty got a nice bonus and said FU payroll. I wondered if the penalty had an affect on payroll. Basically couldn’t spread the bonuses those players received across the full year. Anyhow. I don’t care. I think we are on the right path for this year, regardless of what our payroll is. Hopefully the team will be better increasing attendance because it sounds like revenue is doubled per every fan vs Turner. And hopefully liberty will put that back in team vs stock based bonuses

[Enscheff]

https://www.myajc.com/sports/braves-...mpression=true

Not sure the best place to put this but some good news

I'll leave the money quote:

"Expenses also increased sharply, and Liberty Media said the Braves had an operating profit before depreciation and amortization of $7 million. That compared with a loss of $16 million in the same measure the year before."

All that extra revenue led to a profit increase of only $23M from 2016. They are likely projecting a decrease in attendance this year, which will obviously lead to lower revenue.

Are we starting to see why payroll decreased this year?

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

I guess the hope is that expenses decrease too? I don’t really know enough about their expenses over the past year to say anything (other than payroll this year is obviously not very high)

[Southcack77]

I'll leave the money quote:

"Expenses also increased sharply, and Liberty Media said the Braves had an operating profit before depreciation and amortization of $7 million. That compared with a loss of $16 million in the same measure the year before."

All that extra revenue led to a profit increase of only $23M from 2016. They are likely projecting a decrease in attendance this year, which will obviously lead to lower revenue.

Are we starting to see why payroll decreased this year?

What I'm seeing from that article is the Braves were much more profitable in 2017 than in 2016 despite increased payroll and significant one time expenses.

There is nothing here to suggest that payroll would need to be reduced due to financial necessity. My guess is that it is not a necessity.

Perhaps one of the beat writers should ask Braves what is going on with the deferred money this season. That would help.

Certainly it is something that they should be asked and pinned down upon given how much the County has gifted them.

[Southcack77]

I guess the hope is that expenses decrease too? I don’t really know enough about their expenses over the past year to say anything (other than payroll this year is obviously not very high)

Well yes. It's expensive to build a ball park. It's expensive to buy equipment. You employ people you wouldn't ordinarily employ. You hire contractors you wouldn't normally contract with.

[Knucksie]

Super doesn't know much about baseball or politics but he is right about one thing: Your lack of emotional intelligence and self-awareness is astounding.

The words may have come out wrong. He absolutely lacks emotional intelligence, but his self awareness is unparalleled.

[Hawk]

Well yes. It's expensive to build a ball park. It's expensive to buy equipment. You employ people you wouldn't ordinarily employ. You hire contractors you wouldn't normally contract with.

I don't know how much operating expenses really cross-pollinate with construction expenses. There might be some unavoidable overlap there, as it relates to teething, generally, but I would imagine that the additional expense comes as a result of managing the mixed-used property and that's going to remain elevated.

[Enscheff]

What I'm seeing from that article is the Braves were much more profitable in 2017 than in 2016 despite increased payroll and significant one time expenses.

There is nothing here to suggest that payroll would need to be reduced due to financial necessity. My guess is that it is not a necessity.

Perhaps one of the beat writers should ask Braves what is going on with the deferred money this season. That would help.

Certainly it is something that they should be asked and pinned down upon given how much the County has gifted them.

This isn’t complicated. The new park generates more revenue and costs more to operate.

Bottom line is the Braves can’t afford a higher payroll.

The only people who remain confused are the people who insist on clinging to the notion that the new park is going to lead to the Braves significantly increasing payroll. It should be clear beyond all doubt that isn’t the case.

They had a 2017 opening day payroll of $125M+ based on projections of attendance approaching 3M.

They have a 2018 opening day payroll of ~$110M based on attendance projections under 2.5M.

That’s enough data points for us to guesstimate future payrolls within ~$5M. It appears $130M is the absolute peak for the foreseeable future when attendance is projected to approach 3M, and $110M is the floor when attendance is projected to be under 2.5M.