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    ACA was predicated on subsidizing expensive plans for low income earners by charging others even more than those expensive plans should have cost. This is quite a bit different, and isn't dependent on anyone subsidizing anyone else. Costs are controlled are by limiting services to the basics.

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    57, I think you need to read my proposal again, but imagine that JP or Julio wrote it. Because honestly thethe and sturg should be much more unhappy with it than you are.

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    I guess the devil is in the details...like, what do "the basics" include?

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    Like I said, PCP/LPN care. It seems like PCPs could reasonably transition to providing a far greater range of care than they do now by consulting with specialists electronically instead of outsourcing their patients to specialist offices.

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    bear in mind there is a mechanism that has people, previously uninsurable, enrolled in health insurance programs.
    That is in place and functioning -- I believe ACA can be tweeked to not only accommodate the changes you see but what I see as an avenue to Medicare for all.
    Depending on who has the votes.

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    This ****er hurt an infant and just got to purchase a gun. Fun times.

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    Priorities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Why would my feelings be hurt? Just pointing out how you and the murderer show a similar disdain for prayer and like to mock others. Does it bother you that I point that out? On this point the guy belongs to your tribe. And internet trolling might - just might contribute further to a disturbed person's hatreds. I believe we all should be mindful of that. I know I should be. In the way we post, we likely are contributing to the problems bubbling to the surface in our culture. While we rightfully ought to look for solutions, for aids to check, arrest, prevent such evils, we shouldn't forget to look into the mirror. Just a suggestion that I'll preach to myself first.
    no where did i say i have a disdain for prayer

    why are you taking my stance of offering prayer and thoughts and do nothing as disdain for prayer

    i don't care if one prays or doesn't

    i do like to mock people from time to time, guilty. but those 2 accusations don't go together imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Nice response since you have no defense.
    there is no reason to take that in anyway seriously

    thus why i laughed
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I've never listed to 1 second of rush radio but nice way to deflect from the truth.

    The left is the party of violence and it needs to be stopped.
    i didn't say you did listen to rush. i could only take a few minutes while driving of it while listening to that garbage

    i just found it funny the same bull**** of the violent left that was happening in this thread by you was being spoken on there.


    "party of violence" lol hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i didn't say you did listen to rush. i could only take a few minutes while driving of it while listening to that garbage

    i just found it funny the same bull**** of the violent left that was happening in this thread by you was being spoken on there.


    "party of violence" lol hahaha
    That's interesting. So multile people areally coming to the same conclusion. It's like there might be objective facts that would lead to that

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    yeah, "facts" hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    yeah, "facts" hahaha
    Yeah...you know the things that come out of the investigations showing what philosophy the violent perpetrators were aligned with. Those silly facts really cause a problem to you lefties.

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    So how would y'all feel if a white guy shoots up a black church and cops release him without bail or any charges?






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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yeah...you know the things that come out of the investigations showing what philosophy the violent perpetrators were aligned with. Those silly facts really cause a problem to you lefties.
    Goldfly is on 57 level of intellectualism these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yeah...you know the things that come out of the investigations showing what philosophy the violent perpetrators were aligned with. Those silly facts really cause a problem to you lefties.
    yes, i understand you made up your boogieman

    it must be awful to live in fear of everything like you perpetuate here. it seems you get through it by projecting everyone else as an enemy though. seems you might want to go talk to someone about that
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/w...T.nav=top-news

    Interesting read above.

    Comments please
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    Question for all
    Why so many churches ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/w...T.nav=top-news

    Interesting read above.

    Comments please
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    Question for all
    Why so many churches ?
    I found this interesting:

    A 2015 study estimated that only 4 percent of American gun deaths could be attributed to mental health issues.

    I disbelieve that 4% number, due to the large number of suicides in the total amount of gun deaths. I suspect that 4% is referring to diagnosed mental health issues, which obviously can point to a national mental health care deficiency. Someone who dies of cancer, dies of cancer, whether it was diagnosed or not.

    It was an interesting article. I disagree with his conclusion and some of his numbers, but at least he was using data in an effort to validate his thesis.

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    What is more interesting, mass murders occur where people are not really armed. They pick people who can't shoot back.

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