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    Early ZiPs Puts Braves at 80 Wins

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    On the back of swanson’s .776 ops lol

    How do we get that number to 85-86
    Swanson sucks

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    We probably make a bad, short sighted trade to try

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    Only 5 months before the Opening Day roster will be finalized.

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    Who threw sawdust in the mainframe?

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    87 win team next season
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    At the start of 2017, I'd have bet a month's pay that we'd win 75 games. Glad I didn't bet. I'm done with win expectations until we actually aren't flirting with 100 losses late in September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    Only 5 months before the Opening Day roster will be finalized.
    The caveat is right there:

    As Szymborski points out, these early projections don’t take into account that the Marlins are likely to deal Giancarlo Stanton or any other potential acquisitions or moves. They are a simple snap shot of where teams stand as they enter the offseason. They don’t necessarily mean anything, but they are fun to talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMA76 View Post
    At the start of 2017, I'd have bet a month's pay that we'd win 75 games. Glad I didn't bet. I'm done with win expectations until we actually aren't flirting with 100 losses late in September.
    Reasonable but three reasons why I think this year is different:

    1) Young positional talent (Acuna/Albies/Freeman/Inciarte/Camargo) is very enticing and could produce a cumulative WAR of 20-25.
    2) Young starting pitching. Newcomb went under the radar last year and came on as he got more comfortable as the season progressed. We all saw Gohara - First legit #1 starter out of the system since Hanson (RIP). We all know how I feel about Fried. Teheran is still a solid MOR picher and Folty can either be an ACE or a bullpen arm. Either way - we have better pitching now than we did in quite some time.
    3) Defense. Corner OF defense aside I think our defense will be stout next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Who threw sawdust in the mainframe?
    i think one of the punch cards was out of order
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    The caveat is right there:
    In the case of the Braves, we presumably will be able to add a couple more wins through off-season moves...that's without substantial "borrowing from the future"...i imagine there might be some temptation to do that this off-season
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Reasonable but three reasons why I think this year is different:

    1) Young positional talent (Acuna/Albies/Freeman/Inciarte/Camargo) is very enticing and could produce a cumulative WAR of 20-25.
    2) Young starting pitching. Newcomb went under the radar last year and came on as he got more comfortable as the season progressed. We all saw Gohara - First legit #1 starter out of the system since Hanson (RIP). We all know how I feel about Fried. Teheran is still a solid MOR picher and Folty can either be an ACE or a bullpen arm. Either way - we have better pitching now than we did in quite some time.
    3) Defense. Corner OF defense aside I think our defense will be stout next season.
    Yeah...that's an optimistic but not crazy optimistic scenario...plus there is the late blooming catching duo
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Yeah...that's an optimistic but not crazy optimistic scenario...plus there is the late blooming catching duo
    I think there are lots of reasons to be optimistic about 2018. Lots of great developments in 2017 which pave the way for a successful future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    The caveat is right there:
    It's more than just Stanton. Several roster moves to occur over this time and then players have to be evaluated through ST, among other factors. Granted they have to write about *something* to draw traffic to their site, but this exercise would be much more meaningful around mid-March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    In the case of the Braves, we presumably will be able to add a couple more wins through off-season moves...that's without substantial "borrowing from the future"...i imagine there might be some temptation to do that this off-season
    Or what he just said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    It's more than just Stanton. Several roster moves to occur over this time and then players have to be evaluated through ST, among other factors. Granted they have to write about *something* to draw traffic to their site, but this exercise would be much more meaningful around mid-March.
    I think most people with half a brain understand this. Why are you upset that this was put out now? Yes, sites like ESPN have to constantly put up articles like this to draw traffic. It's the same thing as the top 25 after the college football championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    It's more than just Stanton. Several roster moves to occur over this time and then players have to be evaluated through ST, among other factors. Granted they have to write about *something* to draw traffic to their site, but this exercise would be much more meaningful around mid-March.
    Of course it's more than just Stanton; that was simply one example of a likely change. The real caveat was this: "They [these projections] are a simple snap shot of where teams stand as they enter the offseason."
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    Someone in another thread had us winning 120 games or close to that. I am rolling with that to make this dumpster fire more tolerable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Someone in another thread had us winning 120 games or close to that. I am rolling with that to make this dumpster fire more tolerable.
    120 is slightly optimistic. 106-110

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Someone in another thread had us winning 120 games or close to that. I am rolling with that to make this dumpster fire more tolerable.
    That was me but looking back it could have been a little conservative. At this point with our team, anything less than 130 would be a disappointment

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