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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    But what is there to say negatively about it? I've used Firefox for years, outside of a several-year gap using Opera (in-browser torrenting was the big draw there; but also the ability to reopen with all the tabs that were open at closing, which Firefox now allows). I've always preferred it to Chrome—though that may just be my years of using the former—and Safari is a non-starter. So talk me out of it.
    I would say, foremostly, that it’s a dated browser experience. Chrome’s app store is like the Apple app store - it’s the market developers design for first, update first. I would venture to presume that if you are using Firefox you probably aren't using many add-ons/extensions. Because there aren’t that many, and the ones that do exist are rarely (if ever) updated. And if that presumption is true, then you are definitely missing out. Beyond that, what mobile devices do you use? Do you use Firefox on them too? I think Mozilla falls well short of truly great cross-device interoperability, which is a product of a small company working with limited resources - as is their atrocious development cycle. Of course, there’s the bugs and the glitches and the middling speed (which I think is now basically a useless metric in the world of web-browsers, but still very commonly advertised) of a utility that doesn’t altogether do much beyond browse.

    I used Firefox years ago, but somehow got hooked on Chrome and now think it’s the uncontested gold-standard. Excepting privacy concerns.

    Counterculture tech used to be fun and compelling. Now, more often than not, it's just pretty ****ty. Which saddens me. It's hard to compete with the behemoths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I would say, foremostly, that it’s a dated browser experience. Chrome’s app store is like the Apple app store - it’s the market developers design for first, update first. I would venture to presume that if you are using Firefox you probably aren't using many add-ons/extensions. Because there aren’t that many, and the ones that do exist are rarely (if ever) updated. And if that presumption is true, then you are definitely missing out. Beyond that, what mobile devices do you use? Do you use Firefox on them too? I think Mozilla falls well short of truly great cross-device interoperability, which is a product of a small company working with limited resources - as is their atrocious development cycle. Of course, there’s the bugs and the glitches and the middling speed (which I think is now basically a useless metric in the world of web-browsers, but still very commonly advertised) of a utility that doesn’t altogether do much beyond browse.

    I used Firefox years ago, but somehow got hooked on Chrome and now think it’s the uncontested gold-standard. Excepting privacy concerns.

    Counterculture tech used to be fun and compelling. Now, more often than not, it's just pretty ****ty. Which saddens me. It's hard to compete with the behemoths.
    I use both Firefox and Chrome. Chrome is faster but I still mostly use Firefox. I use Adblock and Download them All. What Addons does one really need?

    My main gripe about my internet experience is the Adobe flash/Java hassle. Seems like I'm always having to update.
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    Have you guys tried Opera? There are some things it doesn't do well but it's pretty good for most of the teaching related things I use it for. I also use Chrome and Firefox because I always have of browsers going at one time. You should give opera try though, even if it's just for your 3rd browser.

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    I was wondering if the number of Roy Moore alleged victims would stay at 4, thinking that if they were telling the truth there would be many more to come. The trickle continues.

    The latest accuser, number 7 or 8?, says that when she refused to give him her phone number, he called her at school and had her pulled from Trig class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    I use both Firefox and Chrome. Chrome is faster but I still mostly use Firefox. I use Adblock and Download them All. What Addons does one really need?

    My main gripe about my internet experience is the Adobe flash/Java hassle. Seems like I'm always having to update.
    What kind of cell phone do you have?

    I think with the addons/extensions it just depends on what kind of user you are. I pour over hundreds of websites any given day and have specific ways of processing the different bits of media I come across. Some things I pass on my kindle (addon), others I print (text simplifier addon), others I save to my onedrive (addon), or e-mail out (addon). I do about 75% of my shopping online (including groceries, sometimes) ... so I utilize different extensions in that realm to track prices and receive deal alerts. Then the privacy and adblocking. And the list goes on - all instantly available on whatever computer I sign in on (along with all of my bookmarks, history, reading lists, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    What kind of cell phone do you have?

    I think with the addons/extensions it just depends on what kind of user you are. I pour over hundreds of websites any given day and have specific ways of processing the different bits of media I come across. Some things I pass on my kindle (addon), others I print (text simplifier addon), others I save to my onedrive (addon), or e-mail out (addon). I do about 75% of my shopping online (including groceries, sometimes) ... so I utilize different extensions in that realm to track prices and receive deal alerts. Then the privacy and adblocking. And the list goes on - all instantly available on whatever computer I sign in on (along with all of my bookmarks, history, reading lists, etc.)
    LOL.

    I do not have a cell phone. If I did my wife would call me 10 times a day.

    I want one though, especially for golf apps. It's a dilemma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    LOL.

    I do not have a cell phone. If I did my wife would call me 10 times a day.

    I want one though, especially for golf apps. It's a dilemma.
    Yeah, you need a smart phone. Here’s a tip though: be unreachable/untethered from the get-go. Friends and family know never to call me on my cellphone because I rarely answer. Text or e-mail, and even then it could be days before I respond. Nobody ever gets pissy because I’ve been this way about mobile communication since High School. Intentionally. And unflinchingly (although there have been a few special cases throughout the years who were [temporarily] granted hotline access).

    Now, your wife sounds like another story, but you can always plead age-induced technical ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Yeah, you need a smart phone. Here’s a tip though: be unreachable/untethered from the get-go. Friends and family know never to call me on my cellphone because I rarely answer. Text or e-mail, and even then it could be days before I respond. Nobody ever gets pissy because I’ve been this way about mobile communication since High School. Intentionally. And unflinchingly (although there have been a few special cases throughout the years who were [temporarily] granted hotline access).

    Now, your wife sounds like another story, but you can always plead age-induced technical ignorance.
    One day soon, I keep telling my wife, if she doesn't find me a reasonably priced android with the apps I want I'm going to drop in the Apple Store and buy the most expensive smart phone I can find. She knows me too well and continues to call my bluff. It would be a major ordeal/hassle for me to go through all that in Japanese. I speak Japanese well enough but read at about a 3rd grade level. The documents I'd have to sign and plans I'd have to choose from would make my head spin. But one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post

    Counterculture tech used to be fun and compelling. Now, more often than not, it's just pretty ****ty. Which saddens me. It's hard to compete with the behemoths.
    Maybe. But that tech is also advancing faster than ever before. Linux used to be for hobbyists only, but I would argue that Linux Mint is probably the best desktop OS out there for the majority of users, even those accustomed to Windows. Ironically it can be argued that the Windows phones (they were counterculture in the smartphone market) were probably the best while they lasted.

    Even piracy is evolving quickly. Apps like Showbox, Mobdro, and Terrarium are quickly over taking Kodi for free tv market share.

    The return to a mainframe/terminal computing model thanks to abundant wireless internet access has made the tech world a crazy place. Change happens a lot faster when developers can just edit some html code instead of having to write, test, and push updates for several generations of multiple operating systems.

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    Because I'm too lazy to look back to where we got on computers, is the issue these guys were too lazy or too scared to look up porn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I think zero-tolerance is the only thing that will drain this particular swamp.
    Franken acceded and offered to cooperate completely to McConnell's suggestion of Ethics Investigation
    ......

    In the late 80's early 90's Sen Packwood resigned after the findings of Senate Ethics Investigation for similar offenses.
    As much of a fan of Franken I have been since AirAmerica I have to agree with Julio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I would say, foremostly, that it’s a dated browser experience. Chrome’s app store is like the Apple app store - it’s the market developers design for first, update first. I would venture to presume that if you are using Firefox you probably aren't using many add-ons/extensions. Because there aren’t that many, and the ones that do exist are rarely (if ever) updated. And if that presumption is true, then you are definitely missing out. Beyond that, what mobile devices do you use? Do you use Firefox on them too? I think Mozilla falls well short of truly great cross-device interoperability, which is a product of a small company working with limited resources - as is their atrocious development cycle. Of course, there’s the bugs and the glitches and the middling speed (which I think is now basically a useless metric in the world of web-browsers, but still very commonly advertised) of a utility that doesn’t altogether do much beyond browse.

    I used Firefox years ago, but somehow got hooked on Chrome and now think it’s the uncontested gold-standard. Excepting privacy concerns.

    Counterculture tech used to be fun and compelling. Now, more often than not, it's just pretty ****ty. Which saddens me. It's hard to compete with the behemoths.
    As for browser add-ons for my laptop: I use LastPass and NukeEverything, and that's about it—but I struggle to imagine needing much more, since I pore over substantially fewer website a day than it sounds like you do. As for mobile: I use Chrome—mostly because I've been using it for a while on iPhone (before Firefox had any sort of mobile cross-over), but also because I haven't read much good about Mozilla's mobile offering, either.

    I'd consider switching to Chrome, especially if you listed some add-ons you thought were truly experience-changing; but at this point I'm fairly comfortable with Firefox, and all I really regularly do on non-mobile online is send longer emails, download .pdfs, shop Amazon, and waste time in Wikipedia vortices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    As for browser add-ons for my laptop: I use LastPass and NukeEverything, and that's about it—but I struggle to imagine needing much more, since I pore over substantially fewer website a day than it sounds like you do. As for mobile: I use Chrome—mostly because I've been using it for a while on iPhone (before Firefox had any sort of mobile cross-over), but also because I haven't read much good about Mozilla's mobile offering, either.

    I'd consider switching to Chrome, especially if you listed some add-ons you thought were truly experience-changing; but at this point I'm fairly comfortable with Firefox, and all I really regularly do on non-mobile online is send longer emails, download .pdfs, shop Amazon, and waste time in Wikipedia vortices.
    I think your opinion would change if you had proper exposure to a robust 'add-on' (a term that I've used pretty loosely, as there are proper add-ons, as well as both extensions and apps) ecosystem. I'm not in the position to make any tailored recommendations because I have no firm idea of what kind of content consumer you are, but it's probably not a stretch at all to say that there are atleast 10 browser modifications currently available which would significantly enhance your WWW experience. And the best iterations of those mods are going to be available on Chrome. As I've intimated, it is, for all intents and purposes, a prototype for the future of web browsing/modern personal computing.

    Chrome mobile is where it's at though. If you are running Chrome desktop I've found the synchronicity to be extremely useful, especially in terms of passwords, bookmarks, and saved URLs, but also just in simply being able to review open tabs on my PC and bring them up on my phone (or vice versa). Plus generalized Googleness is baked in, so things like their app suite are also well supported by/through the browser.

    By the way, I meant pour quite literally. I haven't had the chance to do any substantive poring in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Maybe. But that tech is also advancing faster than ever before. Linux used to be for hobbyists only, but I would argue that Linux Mint is probably the best desktop OS out there for the majority of users, even those accustomed to Windows. Ironically it can be argued that the Windows phones (they were counterculture in the smartphone market) were probably the best while they lasted.

    Even piracy is evolving quickly. Apps like Showbox, Mobdro, and Terrarium are quickly over taking Kodi for free tv market share.

    The return to a mainframe/terminal computing model thanks to abundant wireless internet access has made the tech world a crazy place. Change happens a lot faster when developers can just edit some html code instead of having to write, test, and push updates for several generations of multiple operating systems.

    (goes back to JavaScript tutorial)
    I think Linux is useful to a certain tech demographic, but I wholeheartedly disagree that the majority of users would benefit from making a switch. I personally think that Tails would be more useful than Linux to the average user, circa 2017.

    That being said - personal computing is going in another direction, slowly and with hiccups aplenty, but surely. Look at ChromeOS/Chromebooks and Windows 10 S and the Surface line.

    I was a big proponent of Windows mobile OS. I think Microsoft's decision to scrap its development came way too soon. That being said, those phones were always dealing with some sort of massive hardware and software problems. And there was never any awesome hardware firepower behind them to really showcase the OS, which I completely blame Microsoft for. How could you **** up a Nokia phone? They figured out multiple ways to, though, and essentially killed the brand.

    You are right, one of the coolest thing about the tech 'world' (as it were) is that you don't have to be especially tech oriented to get involved anymore. I think that can only portend well for the future of it all, although we've got to keep our eyes on AI and VR. And Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    One day soon, I keep telling my wife, if she doesn't find me a reasonably priced android with the apps I want I'm going to drop in the Apple Store and buy the most expensive smart phone I can find. She knows me too well and continues to call my bluff. It would be a major ordeal/hassle for me to go through all that in Japanese. I speak Japanese well enough but read at about a 3rd grade level. The documents I'd have to sign and plans I'd have to choose from would make my head spin. But one day.
    Just go with the iPhone right off that bat. You won't regret it. Get a 6 Plus or 7 Plus. The bigger screen is worth it and you won't need the firepower/spunky camera present in the latest model for a while. I just upgraded to the iPhone X, which I love, but am hesitant to recommend. This is coming from somebody that's owned all 7 Galaxy Notes and will advocate pretty fiercely for Samsung. Apple just does the smart phone.

    Anyways, I remember how much of a pain it was for me to get a cell phone in Korea when all I had was an alien card. I wasn't even trying to buy the phone on installment - I just wanted a SIM card. I know it's similar - and much more paperworky - in Japan. I won't begin to tell you the hoops I had to jump through just to get a Japanese 050 number a few months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    As for browser add-ons for my laptop: I use LastPass and NukeEverything, and that's about it—but I struggle to imagine needing much more, since I pore over substantially fewer website a day than it sounds like you do. As for mobile: I use Chrome—mostly because I've been using it for a while on iPhone (before Firefox had any sort of mobile cross-over), but also because I haven't read much good about Mozilla's mobile offering, either.

    I'd consider switching to Chrome, especially if you listed some add-ons you thought were truly experience-changing; but at this point I'm fairly comfortable with Firefox, and all I really regularly do on non-mobile online is send longer emails, download .pdfs, shop Amazon, and waste time in Wikipedia vortices.
    wait, there's chrome for iPhone? How?
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