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    I feel ex bravesitis coming on. #maitansucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/...s-swihart.html


    Scroll down to the section on Braves update. "Not worth the money it the hype."
    I wonder how much of this is real souring on Maitan and how much is Braves damage control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I wonder how much of this is real souring on Maitan and how much is Braves damage control.
    I did talk to a scout at a Mississippi game in the summer and he wasn’t high on Maitan. He just wasn’t sold on him at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I wonder how much of this is real souring on Maitan and how much is Braves damage control.
    It's likely almost all Braves damage control. Maitan is young enough that if you don't like an aspect of his game you can work with him to improve his technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    It's likely almost all Braves damage control. Maitan is young enough that if you don't like an aspect of his game you can work with him to improve his technique.
    I wonder how much of it has to do with his weight. seems like he added some weight when we got him stateside. not a surprise, young kid, moved to a place where fast food is so prevalent. need to get him a nutritionist.
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    I would rather have the guy we paid ~5 million for than not have the guy we still paid ~5 million for... no amount of spin will change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I wonder how much of this is real souring on Maitan and how much is Braves damage control.
    It may be a little of both, but it's part of a pattern. When somebody exits the organization, there frequently are negative statements issued. For once, they should be professional and accept a parting of company without slamming the former player, coach, GM, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I wonder how much of this is real souring on Maitan and how much is Braves damage control.
    I am STOKED about the day he hits a walk-off homer to knock us out of the playoffs.

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    MLB is starting to look silly at this point. Get your shiat together. It should not be this difficult. Why would you just now decide to interview the prospects in question. That never came up before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I would rather have the guy we paid ~5 million for than not have the guy we still paid ~5 million for... no amount of spin will change that.
    Yeah. The money's already spent, so even if the commodity delivers less than expected, you still want ownership of the commodity. I did read somewhere (cannot recall where) after the end of the season where a set of scouts were quoted on Maitan and opinions were all over the board. Some of that may have been sour grapes coming from the organizations that didn't sign him, but there was concern that he had gotten too bulky.

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    I think they are calling the prospects to notify them of what’s happening about them being declared FA.

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    If MLB goes overboard I really hope every prospect who was obtained "illegally" comes out and admits the wrong doings so they too can get signed again and collect another signing bonus. That would be a mess, but fun to watch.

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    One lower IQ Braves fan, apparently have taken to Twitter and comments sections, wondering about the likelihood of losing Acuna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    It may be a little of both, but it's part of a pattern. When somebody exits the organization, there frequently are negative statements issued. For once, they should be professional and accept a parting of company without slamming the former player, coach, GM, etc.
    To be fair, sometimes those negative statements aren't so much sour grapes as an admission that the player might've been a bit over-hyped by those within the organization and fans with their Braves-colored glasses on at an earlier date.

    Not always the case, but that's certainly part of it.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I think they are calling the prospects to notify them of what’s happening about them being declared FA.
    I can’t think of any other reason to meet with these players.

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    They certainly wouldn't be calling the players to just shoot the breeze with them, and while there haven't been names named it sounds like a lot of the top 2016 international prospects were called.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Heyman reporting Maitan will be freed

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    Braves apparently understated how much they spent in 2016 by quite a bit. The penalties for going over slot are based on how much you go over. Theoretically this could justify "freeing" the entire 2016 class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I can’t think of any other reason to meet with these players.
    I agree.

    I also would rather have the "overrated" prospect I paid lots of money for than not have him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Braves apparently understated how much they spent in 2016 by quite a bit. The penalties for going over slot are based on how much you go over. Theoretically this could justify "freeing" the entire 2016 class.
    Declaring a prospect a FA is an extreme penalty, usually reserved for when you wouldn't have been able to get the prospect but for the cheating. Understating how much we spent is more about money and future signings. If we had fully reported the 2016 money we'd still have those prospects. It makes no sense to declare them free agents. The proper punishment here would be fines and bans from signing international prospects/bonus pool reductions.

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