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    Getting An Early Start - GDT 10/4/2013: LA (Zack Stinky) @ ATL (Mike MAJOR!) Game 2

    ...so I can't sleep and I can't even really blame the last game. Either way I'm still awake, and as a nod to my favorite GDT poster of all-time (thedeathlesshorsie) I just have a few thoughts.

    As ya'll know, I (and anyone who grew up with the mid to late 90's Braves) kinda got used to--and took for granted--the yearly trips to the postseason followed by the usual disappointment. Fast forward to 2013, and getting out of the first round has truly become my own sorta World Series for the Braves this year. I'm sure in a way that kinda thinking is rather silly, if not a psychological coping mechanism, but here we are. I was in fact questioning myself thinking this way until I ran across this post on the Mets' Scout board (morbid curiosity after the game? Hah!):

    Man do I love watching Atlanta just crumble EVERY SINGLE YEAR. If it's not at the end of the regular season in historic fashion, it's during their annual "one and done" playoff appearance.

    For as "AWESOME" as so many who don't know any better make them out to be, I'm STILL saying they aren't anything special and by the time the Mets are better than they are, the Braves won't have won anything but a few division titles in a horrible division. As far as playoff series wins go, they'll have few if any more than we do.
    I dunno, I read that and afterwards kinda felt a sense of relief for myself. Obviously it's rather ironic (and lol) that a Mets fan would talk about crumbling at the end of the regular season, but I realized something; we (as Braves fans) have at least had the opportunity to crumble, choke, etc. Meaningful games in September? You can nearly always count on that. The Mets (and a whole other schmorgasm of the MLB)? Not so much.

    So yeah, we're down a game and get to place our fates in the left-hand of one Mike Minor (was kinda hoping Julio would get the call in game 2, but then realized that even at 1-1, Minor would be pitching in a pivotal game anyway). And here's the thing (for me), given our recent playoff history, I don't even know how comfortable I'd feel even with a game 1 victory. So lemme tell you some things I do know (or at least believe, at 2 in the morning).

    "Streaks are streaks," Bobby Cox once said (in 2004 or 2005) when we beat the Astros on a game-ending double play off the bat of Jeff Kent; this ended the Astros' streak of home wins, which was well into double digits at the time. The streak we are unfortunately on is a bad one; it's just that we've been losing games in the playoffs, but how we've been losing them that's particularly galling. And this totally calls for a gameplan, amirite?

    Smoltzie also once said something that stuck out to me. In gist, he said that he preferred pitching in the playoffs because he was able to use the hitters' aggression against them.

    Mikey, I know you're not Smoltzie, but I know ya can give us 6 or 7 out there on the mound with maybe 3 (hopefully) earned runs. If the offense can't support that kinda effort, then ya really will have had nothing to lose in your postseason debut.

    One pitch at a time, one at-bat at a time, and one game at a time.

    I do think we got this.
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    I am right there with you.

    I'd be thrilled if we got swept in the NLCS if it means we actually got out of the NLDS.

    Ok maybe I wouldn't be thrilled, but I can really really see the monkey on the franchise's back with the 1 and done early exit thing. I know these guys with the exception of McCann and Hudson were not there when we kept choking at home, but you can see the weight on some of our guys just out there pressing. The pressure of not only the playoffs, but to bring the Braves back to the NLCS let alone World Series is getting to them.

    You can see guys out there being too aggressive because they feel if they don't make something happen that somebody else won't.

    McCann had two swings for the fences today, Andrelton worked counts but K'd on full counts, Gattis surprisingly walked twice. Justin worked great counts against Clayton, he just couldn't deliver anything.
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    While I'd love to compliment this team on how good we are despite being so young, I don't really care about next season or the future. As of this moment, I want to
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    This is a winnable game but Minor has to throw zeros until we score with this offense against grienke we can not create a hole for us to dig ourselves out of. Offensively, and I'm not sure if we can, stop swinging for the fences go 1st to third on a single steal some bases and hopefully stay out of double digit strikeouts for the game. Grienke is tough but he's not Kershaw and his postseason record is nothing to write home about and god do we have to get to Ryu and nolasco maybe we don't have to face Kershaw again.

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    Need to try something new.

    This.

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    The 1st inning has been Minor's nemesis lately. If he can get off to a good start I think we will score for him.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do.

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    Liked the way our hitters looked yesterday. Kershaw is just an all time great. If we come to play like we did last night we will win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Liked the way our hitters looked yesterday. Kershaw is just an all time great. If we come to play like we did last night we will win!
    Agreed about the hitters looking pretty good yesterday. We need Minor to come up big.

    Also the pen did well last night. Fredi did a good job spreading the work. No threw over 20 pitches, so they can all come back today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Liked the way our hitters looked yesterday. Kershaw is just an all time great. If we come to play like we did last night we will win!
    Agreed, if can get some quality at bats and draw a few walks like we did last night I think we'll capitalize if Minor keeps us close.

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    I was at the game last night and it's always hard to tell but how was the home plate ump? The crowd was on him pretty hard and it felt like everytime a Brave checked his swing he said he went and refused to check with 1st/3rd base ump but when the Dodgers checked, he would check. Justin's first ab sticks out to me.

    Another thing I found to be very interesting was in the bottom of the first the homeplate ump went to the mound and had a conversation with Kershaw. He was on the hill with him for a good minute or two. Did they show that on tv? Not sure what they were talking about but I thought it was a bit odd.

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    I'm not discouraged losing to Kershaw. It's expected. I'm just discouraged because yet again we made way too many errors and mental mistakes. Minors going to throw a gem tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    Another thing I found to be very interesting was in the bottom of the first the homeplate ump went to the mound and had a conversation with Kershaw. He was on the hill with him for a good minute or two. Did they show that on tv? Not sure what they were talking about but I thought it was a bit odd.
    Heard about this on the radio with Don and Jim. They said Kershaw was ready to go but they had to wait for tv and ump was most likely telling him not to get out to the mound too early.

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    Schafer is 5-11 vs Greinke. With his improved D over Gattis, do we see him tonight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfan247 View Post
    Schafer is 5-11 vs Greinke. With his improved D over Gattis, do we see him tonight?
    Fredi said in the post game PC last night that Gattis would be back in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Fredi said in the post game PC last night that Gattis would be back in there.


    It is really hard to stay positive with that guy at the helm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post


    It is really hard to stay positive with that guy at the helm.
    Gattis needs to be in the lineup. He's a huge threat for us. Just because of one baserunning mistake and a tough play he didn't make in the OF....I'm not benching him. Nobody played well yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Fredi said in the post game PC last night that Gattis would be back in there.
    Glad to hear it. Gattis got on base three times last night and hit the ball hard the fourth at bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Glad to hear it. Gattis got on base three times last night and hit the ball hard the fourth at bat.
    Agreed. Gattis has to be in there tonight.

    The Braves were embarrassed last night, but the proper response is not a panic move like putting Schafer in there over Gattis. This team just spent the last month figuring out who the starting 9 should be, and I think they have the right 9 no matter what happened in one game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfan247 View Post
    Schafer is 5-11 vs Greinke. With his improved D over Gattis, do we see him tonight?
    I pray that we do. I think Gattis over 162 games is a better player than Schafer or Bossman but in games where one run can make all the difference, I think the defensive afvantage that an OF of LF - Justin CF - Bossman/Schafer RF - Jason is the best way to go and I think yesterday proved that. Gattis's bat added no runs but his glove cost us potentially 2 or 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfan247 View Post
    Schafer is 5-11 vs Greinke. With his improved D over Gattis, do we see him tonight?
    Schafer has a .455 OPS in the second half.

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