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    Lost prospects' stats (Ranking from Chase's Top 100)

    Benjamin Chase recently posted his Top 100 Braves prospects; we dutifully reported the list here.

    Here are the lost players, with Chase's ranking.

    Kevin Maitan (5th overall): .241 average, 2 HR, 18 RBI, 2/2 SB, 19 K, 16 BB

    Yunior Severino 2B (22nd): 58 G, 226 AB, 3-29-.270,

    Yefri Del Rosario RHP (29th)

    Yenci Pena SS (39th): 45 G, 160 AB, 2-19-.230, 7/13 SB

    Juan Contreras (54th)

    Yoeli Lopez OF (57th): 47G, 1532 AB, 1-12-.235, 11/14 SB

    Livan Soto SS (59th), 47 G, 173 AB, 0-14-.225, 7/10 SB

    Juan Carlos Negret OF (71st): 50 G, 170 AB, .264-2-10, 23 SB

    Antonio Sucre OF (93rd): 57 G, `193 AB, 4-242-.237, 4/8 SB

    Chase's list obviously overlook Abrahan Gutierrez, who was easily in the Braves' top 30-35 as a complete catcher: 35 G, 129 AB, 1-12-.264
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    Gutierrez was mentioned in the final post. He was ranked 27a. There was a computer issue that caused me to have my list glitched, so the top 100 actually had 105 total.
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    Also, Lopez was not lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggentleben View Post
    Also, Lopez was not lost.
    Really glad he wasn't. I like him a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggentleben View Post
    Also, Lopez was not lost.
    Lopez was a little older when he signed but supposedly is really toolsy. Interested to watch his progress.

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    In other words, one currently ranked Top 20 prospect. That was enough to get the "trade Freeman" and "trade Inciarte" posts back up. If Monday were really The Darkest Day in Braves History, then somebody like AA would've never wanted the job.
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    If AA can trade for a CB pick or 2 then it will lessen the sting of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    In other words, one currently ranked Top 20 prospect. That was enough to get the "trade Freeman" and "trade Inciarte" posts back up. If Monday were really The Darkest Day in Braves History, then somebody like AA would've never wanted the job.
    The real sting of last Tuesday will be felt 3 or 4 years from now when the loss of the 12 prospects and the international signing limitations will likely produce a shortage of depth in the system.

    I agree with Hudson's approach and I wouldn't be surprised to see Anthropoulos try to obtain a couple of competitive balance picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    The real sting of last Tuesday will be felt 3 or 4 years from now when the loss of the 12 prospects and the international signing limitations will likely produce a shortage of depth in the system.

    I agree with Hudson's approach and I wouldn't be surprised to see Anthropoulos try to obtain a couple of competitive balance picks.
    I like the approach of piling up picks instead of the let’s trade Freeman and Inciarte talk. AA is a very good GM so i think he will get pretty creative to get past this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    If AA can trade for a CB pick or 2 then it will lessen the sting of this.
    Which teams with comp picks are likely to trade for anything on the Braves MLB roster? Maybe for Viz or SFreeman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Which teams with comp picks are likely to trade for anything on the Braves MLB roster? Maybe for Viz or SFreeman?
    Viz should be able to bring one back. Someone outside of our top 10 prospects would probably be intriguing also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Viz should be able to bring one back. Someone outside of our top 10 prospects would probably be intriguing also.
    Why would the Braves trade a prospect so they can draft another prospect?

    Taking on a bad contract in exchange for a comp pick might be viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    In other words, one currently ranked Top 20 prospect. That was enough to get the "trade Freeman" and "trade Inciarte" posts back up. If Monday were really The Darkest Day in Braves History, then somebody like AA would've never wanted the job.
    The prospects lost are very young. Most of them would surely rise in the rankings as they moved through the system. Using their current ranking to estimate value is very misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    The prospects lost are very young. Most of them would surely rise in the rankings as they moved through the system. Using their current ranking to estimate value is very misleading.
    Of course it is...and it's not as if the effects would be felt immediately
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    The real sting of last Tuesday will be felt 3 or 4 years from now when the loss of the 12 prospects and the international signing limitations will likely produce a shortage of depth in the system.

    I agree with Hudson's approach and I wouldn't be surprised to see Anthropoulos try to obtain a couple of competitive balance picks.

    Precisely, not for 3 - 4 years out. Some of those 12 prospects were not prospects, just minor league players.

    AA is already in operating mode without them as part of of the feeding lane. At the same time, it's not as if he's going to peak in with "I'd better see what Horsehide Harry thinks I should do."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Which teams with comp picks are likely to trade for anything on the Braves MLB roster? Maybe for Viz or SFreeman?
    Twins need a lot of pitching. Could be in the market for Vizcaino, Sam Freeman, or Teheran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Why would the Braves trade a prospect so they can draft another prospect?

    Taking on a bad contract in exchange for a comp pick might be viable.
    Maybe Matt Adams to Minnesota for Phil Hughes, Brent Rooker and CB pick #75. Adams could DH, play some first for them. The Twins clear about $7M in 2018, $13.2M in 2019. Braves get something for Adams and fill one of the veteran starter roles they will look to fill this offseason.

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    How can anyone actually minimize the impact the international signing restrictions will have on the braves? We need every Avenue possible to compete with the big market teams. This really hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Twins need a lot of pitching. Could be in the market for Vizcaino, Sam Freeman, or Teheran.
    Agree that Twins are a good target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    In other words, one currently ranked Top 20 prospect. That was enough to get the "trade Freeman" and "trade Inciarte" posts back up. If Monday were really The Darkest Day in Braves History, then somebody like AA would've never wanted the job.
    Very few 17 year olds are listed as top prospects, but the talent was there. Add that to the fact that we will loose another THIRTY something players in the future...and yes...it’s a HUGE deal. Not for the next three years, but for the next five after that.

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